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Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.

The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.

western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!

That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional 'aid' to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.

b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading

Nothing has come from the 'peace conference' which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine's behalf

lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying

Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.

Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.

nothing has changed it seems

In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area

But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.

show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims

The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):

Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.

"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.

According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience "shell hunger".

Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.

That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.

these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3 sicko-hyper

Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):

Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign "Grandfather". On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).

The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.

  1. Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
  1. No rotation. The soldier says that "the same brigades" are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
  1. Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a "mini-Stalingrad" on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
  1. The Russian Army began to fight better.
  1. Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.

The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.

UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver

I believe that to be wrong. Russia's aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.

Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.

more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 169 points 1 year ago

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Hmm maybe we should just report every pro USA comment as this?

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The burden of the left, we're forced to comport ourselves to a higher standard because our enemies have no sense of responsibility

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"Mods! mods! Delete this tankie at once."

They think this is Reddit.

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Looks like Amadeus Bordiga has an account on the programming instance.

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Double whammy from @natecox@programming.dev stuffing more hatemail in the modbox. The quicker you either 1) show up and actually try and prove why you're right and the article is wrong. or 2) stop making false mod reports over opinions you disagree with, the quicker you'll stop getting pinged for wasting everyone's time.

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@natecox@programming.dev are you really going to keep replying to me via mod reports? Are you really that scared of saying hello or incapable of walking away from an unwinnable event?

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@natecox@programming.dev this is getting boring, knock off filling my report box with your replies and we'll call it even.

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debatebro-l @natecox@programming.dev debatebro-r

Edit: this probably looks weird to anyone looking in. TL;DR each comment here is a response to a mod report I get. I'm not stopping until I stop getting mod reports.

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 84 points 1 year ago

comes to an instance commonly defederated because tankies

Sees tankies

kitty-cri-screm OMG I DIDN'T KNOW HEXBEARS WAS ACTUALLY TANKIES

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

We didn't spend all spring practicing entrenchment and ambush for nothing!

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[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

lol “editorialized”. i counted two instances of b editorializing in this otherwise well cited article. and one of those is barely editorializing, more of a hypothesis based on prior evidence that Ukraine does not have enough reserves to follow up if they happen to break the Russian line. the other is a guess of Russia’s future actions, but again, its a reasonable guess based on the current status of the Russian army and the general sentiment of civilians in Russia-occupied oblasts.

so come @jemikwa@lemmy.blahaj.zone and @natecox@programming.dev. come @lasagna@programming.dev. defend ur claims in the posting arena instead of cowering in the mod reports

[-] puff@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

Show me one place the Ukronazis broke through even the first line of Russian defences. I'll wait, dorks.

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago

I am still astounded by this part, the utter failure of Ukraine to make any substantial gains whatsoever. I never expected the counteroffensive to succeed, but with the Russian evacuations of the combat zone, and the withdrawals in Karhkiv and Kherson, I pretty much expected the UAF to be allowed to reach the 1st line of defense. The utter failure of the UAF to take only a few tiny pockets, despite their force concentration, just shows the utter failure of NATO to identify an effective doctrine.

Now, with Russia on the offensive again, I don't really see any possibility of Ukrainian gains in the future. If the counteroffensive was supposed to improve Ukraine's position on the negotiating table, well, this is their high tide.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It doesn't seem like a big departure from where they've been for most of the war. Well before this I recall the general consensus being that Ukraine was sending out waves of unsupported light infantry and Russia was mulching them with massed artillery fire, and then the process repeated until the UA soldiers refused to advance.

NATO doesn't really seem to have much going in terms of tactics except "lol air superiority". A lot of their equipment is shitty and has poor mobility, and they haven't fought any real battles since Vietnam. All they really know is air superiority, gun run, JDAM, bomb civilians, hot chip, and lie."

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This is 100% going to get y’all defederated haha I love it

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 1 year ago

Those reports also get sent to the admins of their instance.

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What better way to tell everyone “I don’t know how the block community button works and want to make that the mods and/or admins problem”?

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Wtf lmao. Poor admins

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