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After Mamdani Victory, Progressives Call for Primary Challenges to Democratic Establishment
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The best way to have a Dem win the general, is a healthy primary.
If it's not then the only way shitty Dems get out of office, is giving the seat to a Republican.
The myth that primaries hurt in the general is a lie spread by neoliberals. It's bad for them because if you compare a neoliberl to literally anyone that's not a Republican, they look like a turd sandwich.
Are you saying we shouldn’t vote blue no matter who?
Screw blue. If everyone votes blue, no matter who, we still live in a fascist, capitalist country going down the drain because politicians would rather cash checks from their corporate masters than do what's right. We need actual reform.
Since it has to rhyme, vote progressive, not regressive?
Very obviously no.
You say that because you're a rational person. The people he was replying to. Thought it was more important that Biden/Harris lose than trump. They ridiculed those calling for solidarity against trump. Screeching blue maga. Because they didn't care if trump won.
No I misinterpreted this section of the comment as a call to action rather than pointing out the obvious.
There you go again, blaming the voters for the fact that Biden and Harris were shitty candidates. God forbid they could have changed their policies. Never that.
And your position looks even more messed up today. If you consider what's happening in Palestine today. Harris wanted to take a pro-Israel stance, she did, Trump pretended that he was all about peace, we knew he was lying, but it was too late because she already threw away those votes.. That's 100% on her, we all predicted it, and she did whatever she wanted.
And there you go again deflecting. It was always going to be either a democrat or a republican that won. We would have had far more impact trying to negotiate with the Democrat than a Republican. Yes both candidates were bad. But one would have definitely been better. The one so many hyper focused on attacking. While not attacking the other in the slightest.
My position looks as good as it ever did. I was right before. I was right during the election. And I've been right since the election. All people like you can do is silently downvote pyrrhicly. Or delusionally you create scenarios in which there's a magical world in which I was wrong.
Both. Vote your heart in the primary, head in the general. Whatever BS they put out is going to be better than the alternative, but if everyone shows up to primaries it might be actually decent.
You mean like I’ve been doing for the last 25 years as shit continually got worse?
Yeah. It got worse slower than the alternative, which is my point. If you're losing primaries, you don't have much of an active base. Primaries validate active bases.
Too late for that now, isn't it? But vote red to end all wars and all genocide. That'll show Joe Biden.
I’ve voted blue no matter who because I know America is too terrible to stop a genocide.