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When presented with conservative-biased chatbots, Democratic voters supported substantially reducing government expenditures on education, while Republicans did the opposite when presented with a liberal-biased chatbot.

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[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Ethics & environmental problems aside, what's stopping us from creating MarxAIst chatbots that automatically dunk on libs online?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

$$$$

Also conservative and liberal LLMs are the same thing arguing minutiae, not trying to get people to overcome decades of propaganda denying that anything but liberalism works and that other systems are viable. Like an LLM discussing how private school vouchers aren't as good as property taxes or vice versa isn't challenging anyone's worldview. A chatbot that shares Marxist theory needs to overcome the kneejerk hollering fascist ape that's been surgically implanted into every liberal's frontal cortex by their lifelong immersion in the hegemonic order

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

a chatbot that shares Marxist theory needs to overcome the kneejerk hollering fascist ape that's been surgically implanted into every liberal's frontal cortex by their lifelong immersion in the hegemonic order

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[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

That hollering fascist ape deserves a robot calmly guiding it towards the left. Maybe with bots doing the first part of radicalizing we can focus on the people who are closer to our views and need more nuanced discussions. IDK just a random thought.

I'm restless with tech skills that I'm not using because my small business SaaS idea is not working out.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

These tools are getting cheaper so there's a day where I can see a homebrew server running an LLM that has responses for all of the possible objections to Socialism without us having to keep rewriting the same talking points over and over. Imagine the r/TheDeprogram auto response bot but everywhere thinkin-lenin

[–] AtmosphericRiversCuomo@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

what's stopping us

Our childish outlook on the issue.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ironically, if you're using a prompt and Marxist-only RAG, you'd have to use a Western LLM for that. Deepseek's censors are ratcheted down to the point where it becomes useless for anything political as it errors out whenever it mentions Mao, Deng, or Xi (although it can mention Zhou Enlai without issue). Kimi or Qwen might be a bit more permissive, but I believe they still crash upon mentioning Xi which is a massive downside when trying to make a Marxist LLM.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If this were to take off I imagine it would have to be a Llama trained homebrew LLM and not anything owned by a corporation. I imagine pointing an LLM at marxists.org and transcripts of Matt Christman's videos and go from there.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Llama is owned by Facebook, that's what I mean by Western

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Ah didn't know that

[–] AtmosphericRiversCuomo@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought the API isn't like that, only if you use it through the UI. Or you could just use another version of deepseek hosted elsewhere.

The API and web UI have the same censors. I believe they are baked into the model itself.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Chatbots that don't bullshit haven't been invented yet