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[โ€“] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 139 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This but unironically.

Every environmental activist out there who spends their afternoons shaming people online for going about their most mundane, domestic activities ("how dare you use a hot cycle for your single load of laundry!?") are actively complicit in enabling and normalizing billionaires' continued ravaging of the earth's resources. It keeps everyone distracted from the actual problem and trapped in an "us vs them" mentality where the public can never collectively unite to turn the heat around on those in power.

I'm not cutting my decompression-after-surviving-another-day-in-dystopia shower short while Musk installs another infinity pool in his Arizona summer home lol, so stop asking.

[โ€“] frunch@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ever since data centers have begun consuming staggering amounts of water and electricity while providing unprecedented amounts of pollution/toxic waste/noise/more, I've really given up feeling responsibility for making the world better/cleaner. I'm not going to change my behaviors--I'll still recycle and be careful about energy/water consumption, but the advent of the data center threw a similar "fuck you" as when i discovered how little the recycling of plastic bottles actually makes any impact (and that we were basically sold a glaring lie + promise by major bottlers like coke and pepsi)

"We won't be fooled again" ๐Ÿฅด

[โ€“] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Plastic recycling is actually picking up as the economics make more sense.

But its still better to use/buy things in more recyclable containers...

[โ€“] Drusas@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If we can ever get rid of the capitalists, we could switch to compostable containers for most or many goods. They've already been invented; they're just not seen as profitable to implement on a wide scale.

[โ€“] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's what really sucks about getting an education is being exposed to all the alternatives that have been created over the decades in many fields but we're just kinda put on the shelf because the capitalists said "but what about number go up?"

There is so much shit we could change and have everyone be better off for it yet we don't cause it won't make number don't go up.

[โ€“] GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I work for a company that is one of the top worldwide plastic polluters. We use plastic in packaging. I was in an astonishing series of meetings recently, organized by the global corporate office for legal, R&D and supply chain that went like this:

First, we had a series of trainings about climate change that had none of the typical bullshit. They straight explained that the whole idea of recycling is stupid and shifts focus to the part where it makes the least impact, that carbon offsets don't really work, that we can't rely oil running out because the environment and the economy will collapse way sooner than that will happen.

The second part was I guess appealing to people's emotions by showing devastating effects that humans have caused already, for example there was a picture of starved baby bird that died because the parents were feeding it plastic garbage from the ocean.

The third part was practical plans to make various industries sustainable, the point was that drastic measures are required for most companies and that the worst offenders are not consumer-facing so relying on public pressure will not work.

The fourth part was about practical challenges that are not solved yet in our company and everyone got a list of goals they should achieve by 2030. Removing the plastic entirely was one of the goals.

They actually talked about the number go up problem and how we should lobby for extremely strict sustainability legislation. I'm now personally responsible for implementation of glass or aluminum packaging that should be returned and reused. I even became a bit optimistic about the future, because typically I imagine my kids (if I had any) in 30 years living in a fascist state and their job is manning the machine guns against waves of migrants from Africa where the environment collapsed and crops failed.

Hey! How dare you give me a little faith in humanity back?!

Seriously though, I hope this company you work for is serious about what you described in those meetings. I don't trust businesses to self regulate but ANY business that's figured out that burning the world to cinders will be bad for long term profits should be encouraged.

[โ€“] plutopos@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Remember, the 'carbon footprint' metric was invented by British Petroleum's PR team.

[โ€“] ElegantBiscuit@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

And while you're at it, remember that BP was formerly named the Anglo Persian Oil Company, which held a commercial monopoly on the oil extraction of Iran. It was majority owned by the british government and served to funnel the oil wealth back to London. When Iran's then democratically elected government wanted to nationalize the company, the UK and US fomented a coup in 1953 and installed a constitutional monarchy with a dictator Shah that would ally with the west. That's why they have F-4 tomcats, and fun fact, he was the one who commissioned mercedes to create the G-Wagon. Eventually resentment against the government would lead to the Iranian revolution in 1979 and the hostage crisis which would create the conditions that lead to today.

Would help if we could all have a sort of environmental living kit with very low footprint. Like, you live your green life and don't ever even think about it.

[โ€“] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like this particular post has got to be capitalist propaganda

Edit: I meant the one from the Straits Times

[โ€“] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call it capitalist propaganda to state the fact that, for example, the top 10% of wealth holders are responsible for TWO THIRDS of global warming caused by carbon emissions, with just the top 1% being responsible for 23%.

If anything, that could be called anti-capitalist propaganda, because it actively targets the wealthiest parasitic class in our society and demonstrates that their excessive consumption, funded by the wealth they extract from people's labor, is responsible for most of our emissions.

Individuals can do things to lessen the impacts their consumption creates on the planet, but it doesn't change the fact that the biggest current source of emissions is the wealthy.

I could buy eco-friendly soap, compostable toothbrush heads, thrift all my clothes, only buy more expensive but advertised-as-repairable devices, carefully cut around small grease stains on cardboard boxes to ensure it's recyclable, and refuse to ever buy a drink at the store and only use a water bottle instead.

Those are all examples of actions that almost certainly would help the climate and environment more than if I wasn't doing them... but if I'm coming back home from a long day at work for a company that sends all its profits to a billionaire who just took a private jet flight to and from lunch on some tropical island somewhere, and I just want to not feel like shit that night, is the most effective strategy really to shame me if I take a warm shower and eat some ice cream out of a non-compostable tub, or is it to concentrate everyone's shame and collective actions onto that billionaire?

[โ€“] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ever since I learned about super trawlers three times the size of the Eiffel tower, I've been really doomerist about my own environmental impact. The fuck am I supposed to do for the environment when we have these sins against nature just floating around in the ocean? I already don't eat fish. If I quit using plastic straws, I could cut out 100 grams of waste every year, and the environment wouldn't even notice

[โ€“] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean sure, but also why add to the issue. The more people on board with quiting plastic use the more companies have to adapt to better solutions, and can help bring awareness. But politicians in kahootz with big corp makes real change almost impossible

Because it makes my life easier, and doesn't meaningfully contribute to the problem. Plastic use on this side of the grocery store does nothing to influence its use on the back end. It's a lot easier to convince the public not to fight for regulations when you make them think that they're making a difference by not using disposable straws and plastic grocery bags.

[โ€“] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 3 days ago

Eating two pounds of bacon fried beef on an asbestos bun is gonna kill you but there's no point putting it down if you're holding the elephants foot in your other hand put the one down or the other cannot kill you fast enough to matter.