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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having an immune system that isn't ruined by diseases is required for survival though.

[–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

mhm, but most people have that without vaccinations too.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, dum-dum, they have that thanks to the vaccination.

[–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yes, you dumb dumb, I know vaccinations do that. Im saying that our immune system is actually really fucking good and humans did also survive until 40 and up without vaccinations for thousands of years.

Duh, vaccinations contribute a lot but are not strictly required for survival or a functioning immune system

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Some humans survived, a huge percentage of them didn't.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If I gave you a revolver with only 1 bullet out of 5 shots and gave it a spin, would you be willing put it to your head and pull the trigger?

Because those are actually better odds of survival than the average human faced before vaccines

The immune system isn't fool proof.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago

As a species yes. But again, 40% were dead before 15. By 40 that percentage was even bigger. So most did not survive to 40 and up.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But the people without fully functional immune systems rely on the herd immunity provided by vaccinations, so...

[–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not arguing against vaccinations, I hope you realize that. I find it absolutely incredibly what we've been able to achieve in illness prevention and even erradication.

The only thing im trying to say is that we shouldn't understate how incredible the human immune system is, and saying it can't function without vaccines is just misinformation.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know what would really highlight how amazing the human immune system is, instead of this antivaxxer line of comments?

How introducing an already dead or greatly weakened form of a disease to it gives it the fore knowledge on how to defeat the real thing in the future.

Like. A. Vaccine.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Calm down, Edward Jenner...

[–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

aaaaand you missed the point again.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

That's still you

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

saying it can't function without vaccines is just misinformation.

It can function without vaccines just fine.... Until it can't and some disease wipes out half of humanity. And that was all before the modern world was as connected as it is today.

Misinformation my ass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics