It's not that they lack empathy, it's that they're groomed to no longer view certain forms of life as alive. They're not "alive" they're animals. This is my heritage, my culture. My religion says we deserve to do this because we're special. If we don't kill them then they'll overrun us. They're naturally aggressive, this is a favor. We can have it both ways, a compromise. They're treated fairly before they die. It's notremoved, we're helping them to breed.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

this is a favor. We can have it both ways, a compromise. They're treated fairly before they die. It's notremoved, we're helping them to breed.

I have to disagree with this part; I've seen clips of Israelis talking and of Palestinian victims; Israeli war criminals genuinely enjoy torturing Palestinians; there was a Palestinian (doctor? Journalist?) who was told his family was killed (it was a lie) and it broke him, and he said the IOF thug who'd done it seemed genuinely happy to see he'd broken him; there's also them specifically shooting children in front of their parents. They genuinely enjoy terrorizing Palestinians, they're not trying to be kind in their own warped way, they know what torments Palestinians and they specifically try to engage in it; they stick Palestinians in cramped cells and then play almost deafening trance music for days on end; Ben-gvir literally talks about making a thousand Lebanese mothers weep for every weeping Israeli mother, he talks about kidnapping Lebanese women and children because he knows it'll pain Hezbollah members. They had their doctors perform procedures on Palestinian hostages WITHOUT anesthetic.

They're not trying to be merciful in their own way, they're trying to be as horrifically vicious as they can imagine against the Palestinian population; they do see Palestinians as less than animals.

I've seen a story of back in South Africa during apartheid where two white people stuck a terrified black man into a coffin and made him terrified that they were going to bury him alive; these kinds of monsters engage in this cruelty BECAUSE it torments their victims; they are not trying to be kind in their own way. You know those times when a part of you wants to do unimaginable evil to someone you really hate and see as evil, but your conscience is a very firm locked door that absolutely won't let that whim EVER get its way (even if you actually had the power to do it)? Apartheid believing white South Africans and Israelis don't have that block.

I really need to stress this: The red line, the absolute block, the conscience most of us have to not do the evil things we imagine even if we had the power to do so, they DON'T have that.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net 9 points 18 hours ago

First, I never said that they're being kind in their own way, because that's not what I believe.

What I said is that they have been groomed and gaslit until they no longer see life as life. The alternative is accepting what they're doing is wrong. In order to keep this delusion up they resort to greater and greater acts. In The Wretched of the Earth Fanon describes interviews with colonial torturers. These people knew what they were doing was wrong, it actively bothered them and haunted their dreams. So what did they do? They doubled down. Because they believed that nobody would torture a human, and therefore these must not be humans.

I used to work at a slaughterhouse. There were three kinds of people who worked there: The ones who quit, the ones who broke, and the ones who embraced it. I watched them do unimaginable things to those animals. All the while insisting that it's ok, because they're just animals. Things so depraved that not one damn thing out of Palestine has surprised me.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not that they lack empathy

I feel like they do. You know on account of all the indiscriminate mass murder of men, women and children alike.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Cuz, this ain't Lenin, you can't just skim the first line and say you read my comment. Go back and try again.