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Tell me again how china is good or better than America? I’ve said this before but American capitalism hasn’t been the answer for decades. And Chinese communism won’t save us either. As a Native American I know all to well about the great American history of treating natives here. And how china has been treating Tibet and Uyghurs is distinguished as well as Taiwan too.
if for no other reason than China isn’t close enough to be the primary actor fucking over my flavor of minority
where as the US has 100+ years of history doing so
Both China and the US are fascist. So they're about the same.
Yeah, fascists will call themselves socialist, democratic, or even communist if it serves their goal of gaining power.
You need to do a lot of due diligence on anyone calling themselves a socialist.
I think there's a bit of a difference especially when considering foreign policy in the modern age. I mean how many civilians have died as the result of military actions taken by China compared to the US in the last 50 years?
Are we including Indigenous peoples?
https://www.history.com/articles/native-americans-genocide-united-states
My criticism was aimed at US foreign policy. I mean China really hasn't invaded anyone since their attempt with Vietnam, and unlike America they seemed to learn from the experience.
As far as domestic crimes against humanity, it would be hard to compare. China has much longer history as a nation, but a much shorter history in their current government.
Why does everything need to be compared to the US and why can't both be bad?
100%. The only thing comparing them does is make each look less bad in contrast with the other.
china is objectively way less bad than america tho
Hey, be generous and give .ml some time to write their script at how they treat their minorities better before they respond to you!
In my -admittedly limited - experience, the bast majority of people are nice, good people. Doesn't matter where they come from, what the color of their skin is, what their culture is, most people are decent and just want to make it through the day. Just the other day I was in a city where a football world cup match was playing and the streets were filled to the brim with people from all countries, all walks of life, all partying together. I saw 10 people from every "color" and gender and what not, all playing "keep the ball up". Everyone was wearing a T-shirt from a different country and it didn't matter, everyone was there to enjoy themselves.
Its usually a tiny portion of narcissistic assholes with psychopathic tendencies that feel the need to get more money, more power, who always end up pushing bullshit like this. It's always a form of "I want more wealth or power so if I make another minority group look bad, I can divide and conquer and become even bigger!"
I think that if we simply remove the option to become super powerful that things finally will turn around. That means world wide wealth caps for one, nobody richer than, say, ten million dollars, anything over that goes to taxes. And for two, it means also capping the power that politicians have.
Once everyone is more or less equally powerful, and there are no more incentives to push for more wealth, that 1% if you will, will no longer have the power to push those narratives that one is better than the other, they won't be able to spread lies as easily anymore and why even try if you can't get rich or powerful anymore?
I think that is the thing that will turn this around for humanity, we need to stop the rich and powerful
China is obviously better than america and its not even close, however china is still bad due to revisionism/dengism
You speak as if there's a "betterness ruler" somewhere we use to measure the "goodness of empires". It's not something you measure.
If there isn't a way to objectively measure the morality of an action, or group of actions completed by a nation over time, then why are the majority of your post centered around criticism of China?
there is indeed a betterness ruler (called common sense) and not every country is an empire
I dont think either system will be the one prevailing in the long term, they are both to flawed and do not prevent corruption which will always destroy any system. So yea both are bad, which leads to the question which is currently worse? I'd argue latestage captialism corpo America is worse then CCP China at the moment. I think more average people are suffering in America then in China at this point in time. Dont get me wrong I'm not a fan off China in terms of censorship, oppression of people and other control measures in place, my only argument is that living a standard live in China is easier/more comfortable at the moment then in the US (better healthcare, less household debt, less homelessness, etc.). Also the Taiwan situation is very different then the Tibet and Uyghurs oppression but that's a whole other topic so I don't wanna start that discussion
It is better at churning out more billionaires than the US now.
https://ceoworld.biz/2026/03/08/china-surpasses-the-u-s-again-as-worlds-billionaire-factory/
Remind me when the US executes a billionaire.
Oh yes, China is also better at executing people who don't agree with it through their courts. Amazing place!