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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't see the problem with a nation celebrating it's supposed 250th birthday? (USA was actually born on the third of September 1783)

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean I'm not a parent. Do you celebrate the date your children were conceived too? I'll celebrate just about anything but that seems a little outside my comfort zone. Tell me it's a retirement party for your dog or something.

Speaking of which, my dog is retiring from the poopsniffing business and wants to go into finance. want to come to his retirement party?

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Part of the problem no one has mentioned yet is that "America 250" was a planned national slogan and organized effort to celebrate our independence. I don't know the specifics but dipshit bastardized it and spun off "Freedom 250" which is associated with just his administration and was used to line his pockets with money meant for the celebrations in D.C. Again, I don't know the specifics, but I'm pretty sure the gist of it is that its a shell company that he controls and put allies on the board for.

[–] Dzheyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

My wife was just telling me about this. So much blatant corruption and theft and I'm at the point where the seething is just turning to numbness.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hasn't "freedom" been the US's schtick for a while? The US colonies existed before 1776 and gained independence in 1783

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We declared independence 1776.07.04. It didn't mean shit to the world, but we declared it and consider it to be the founding of our nation, even though it would take until 1783.09.03 to win the revolutionary war. We also didn't ratify our first (and significantly worse) constitution until 1781.02.02 (effective 1781.03.01) or our famously beloved second constitution until 1787.06.21 (effective 1789.03.04).

Our founding was an awkward mess, but in our defense we really only had the Haudenosaunee and to a much lesser extent the British to look to for inspiration on how to do what we were going for.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

really only had the Haudenosaunee

What's wrong with that? Wouldn't the world be better if more had been copied?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Oh absolutely, but the problem is it led to a lot of the early American debates being of how to balance their influence vs the European influence. These were white people of recent European descent who (mostly, there were some) weren't interested in joining the Five Nations or any other Iriqouian confederation.

When you only have one good role model you find yourself winging a lot and taking more than you should have from the less good influences you've got. Hell, confederation was something that had worked for the Haudenosaunee, but very much collapsed immediately for the United States because we lacked a lot of their cultural technologies and we had a lot of our own cultural and political stuff that got in the way and made federalism work better for us at that time.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

(We declared independence in 1776 and England finally agreed to fuck off in 1783. Feel free to celebrate England's official recognition, but l prefer to stick to the "Wait a minute, fuck YOU" date. It feels more appropriate.)

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 19 hours ago

I don't think I've ever seen an entire paragraph in brackets before 🤣

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 17 hours ago

Our recognition of your independence is when you got independence. Simple as.

[–] NewDark@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A nation responsible for so many wars, coups, and bombings. The evil looking thunderstorm asthetic is a little on the nose.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

It's also responsible for cool pictures of space and 9/11 jokes so it evens out

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 23 hours ago

and 9/11 jokes

With some help from the ~~Afghans~~ Saudis.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The story of the relationship between our two nations is one of extraordinary evolution, from overcoming conflict to forging one of the closest and most productive alliances the world has seen. Across defence and security, trade and investment, science, research, education, culture and the arts, the ties between the United Kingdom and the United States are unique and far-reaching. Together, we face the challenges of today, and the opportunities of tomorrow. As I said in my address to the joint Houses of Congress, our shared roots run deep, and they are still vital.

I am greatly encouraged by the enduring bond between our countries, and by the many connections between our peoples, which we were able to see once again, at first-hand, on our visit. Through centuries of shared challenge and achievement, our nations have built a relationship founded on friendship, trust and a belief in liberty, the rule of law and the dignity of all people.

As we look ahead to the next 250 years, I have no doubt we will continue to defend our shared values. I also hold a deep appreciation of our shared responsibility to protect the natural world, knowing the decisions we take today will determine whether our critical natural systems will not just maintain the harmony and essential diversity of Nature, but also continue to provide the foundation for our prosperity and our national security for both present and future generations.

The connection between our peoples is one that I trust will only grow stronger with time. As you mark this momentous occasion, my wife and I send our warmest good wishes to you and to the people of the United States of America, today and in the years ahead.