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they still have a responsibility to put work into relationships with other cis men. Even if it's easier to just hang with non-male friends. Someone has to do the work of educating them and why should the main victims of patriarchy have to do it instead of the ones who suffer least from it and benefit the most?

I've definitely done my best to educate other cis men, ends up they typically really don't like that. I'm getting old enough where I just don't know very many young men, and a lot of my previous cis men friends my age just became self destructive at some point and went no contact or have killed themselves.

They let them do all this emotional labor, without ever putting anything in themselves. And without ever trying to change what male friendships could mean

Yeah, that is my experience with most relationships with my fellow cis male counterparts. Like, I can only talk about sports or videogames for so long before I start not feeling like a real person anymore. I never really understood friendships where it was taboo to talk about your experience with the human condition.

If men isolate themselves from other men, men won't change.

I've kinda lost faith that this will happen anytime soon. Anytime I try to talk with other men about real emotions and life they either retreat from engagement, or end up being gender fluid.