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[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're confused.

The money comes from you. I welcome you to no longer use a car and walk to the job. Poof, suddenly their profit falls. Multiply that by a society, and suddenly much of these firms can no longer exist.

The question has always been about how much humans are willing to sacrifice to save the earth, and the answer has pretty much always been "best I can do is blame a placeholder (some CEO/company, doesn't matter which one, because it's just demand from society and there will always be new companies as long as there is demand from you and me) and assume it's 100% their fault"

Don't get me wrong, this isn't really an individual problem, it's how society/humans work. We'd vote for someone who speaks against oil, but hang them as soon as the oil price goes above 5$

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don’t own a gasoline car you fool

I want the price of oil to be $2028 a gallon

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The products you buy were made in factories powered by fossil fuels, shipped across oceans in fossil fuel powered ships, and arrive at the shop in fossil fuel powered trucks. The food you eat is fertilized with fossil fuels, and the industrial growing, processing, and packaging process puts carbon into the atmosphere. The streets you walk on are made from concrete, which releases carbon into the atmosphere from the chemical process used to synthesize it. And even if you live some magical life where you can avoid personally paying the cost of all of these things, the same is not true of everyone else, who needs to drive cars to work on asphalt highways, heat their homes with wood/propane/ng stoves, eats industrially produced food, and have all this economic activity protected via a fossil fuel powered military. And an increased price of carbon means that their lives cost more, which means they need higher wages, which means everything they produce that you might buy also gets more expensive.

I don't disagree with you that gas prices should be higher. In fact, I think the only way to get from here to there is to appropriately price carbon. But to act like there is no potential for hardship among average people - that there arent legitimate challenges to weening off the carbon-heavy economy we are used to - is disingenuous at best

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right, but why are you ready to live green when 8 out of 10 people would take the cheaper oil that you didn't buy? Just keep doing whatever you like, we don't matter on the grand scheme of things.