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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 93 points 4 months ago (3 children)

honestly a bit impressed with the dems here, because we've definitely gone beyond the line of expectations the fractious GOP had for this shutdown. they can usually count on just enough dems to fold when bluffed with brinksmanship.

the panic is setting in and trump publicly crapping on the GOP senate for not removing the filibuster exposes that the GOP could have ended the shutdown at any time IF they could all agree.

all of which jives with the GOPs 9+ month victory lap and triumphalism since the inauguration, so the blame is increasingly resting in republicans for everything that has been occuring. they run everything, so the giant turd on the dinner table is all theirs.

i think they're going to panic and actually make an official public try to remove the filibuster (instead of waiting to prove it will pass using back channel discussions first), which may further expose deep dissent within the bloc if it fails, or completely up-end the political calculus of the senate (a historically anti-worker body) permanently if it passes. the filibuster has acted as a check against populist sentiment for so long, its hard to say what might come after, good or bad, in the near and less near term.

and also, the looming lack of payroll for the military continues to haunt imperial aggression and posturing. like how do you give an eff about "duty" when your family back home can't pay the bills heading into winter?

im not really saying all this to be optimistic, but this is all cool zone type shit and its wild af imo to watch unfold.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also impressed with the dems here ngl. The fall will always be the administration's, first and foremost.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I think it’ll be really easy for them to recursively blame the other side for the shut down. ‘They want you to die from hunger just so the illegals will get out of jail’. It’s a willing populace, we are dumb as shit

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The average American may be dumb but it’s almost always the party in charge that gets the blame when things are bad.

The issue is they don’t carry that past the next election or connect the dots enough to realize the true cause of most of their issues is capitalism.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Our job is to help connect the dots

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Exactly. We can say the people are too dumb to notice, but none of us were born with this knowledge. It's the job of the organized left to spread this knowledge. Something I myself I admit I need to get better on.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

"You've surely noticed that something like this has happened every day of your life, for several decades now..."

wall-talk

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

I think this week's election results show that people aren't really buying the bs right now. Mamdani centering class issues in his campaign instead of identity has forced both Democrats and republicans to react in a way that is likely to be electorally devastating to Republicans.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

my dipshit coworker will 100% believe that forever

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Impressed they haven’t caved but they’ve been shit at capitalizing on this. Every single dem politician should be out there saying “we are doing this so the GOP doesn’t gut Medicaid. As soon as they take that out the budget we are ready to sign”. That is a 100% winning message Americans would get behind and they haven’t really done it.