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People will really just pin all their hopes on China and then crash out the moment China looks out for its own interests and doesn't take on the entire rest of the world on principle.
Like, it would be nice if they had vetoed. Would that have made a difference in Palestine? Almost definitely not in the long term. Would that have hurt China? Probably yes. Would they be more likely to be better on foreign policy if there was an international communist movement? Definitely yes. China isn't going to save you. China is trying to save China, because they're extremely afraid of ending up like the USSR did.
Every Arab country was pushing this deal. Fatah was pushing this deal. It was always going to go through. Did anyone expect China - notorious for "minding their own business" to an extreme degree, even when it's morally wrong - to go against every single Arab country and the internationally recognized Palestinian government who even Hamas still treat as somewhat legitimate to avoid fracturing the Palestinian state?
I am still waiting for the mythical "Chinese imperialism" to manifest in any kind of interventionism or enforcement action. People really need to have some perspective.
These are apparently, according to some, equivalent in some way because they expected China to solve all the world's problems? It would be great if China had vetoed, but what was the basis/justification? It can't just be "in our opinion as the state of China, this is bad". They would have had to have been asked by a party involved for it to have made sense to veto the resolution, they're not the world police. Did Hamas actually ask China to veto it? Even if they had, could it have been done without shattering the tenuous idea of a unified Palestinian state? After all, since even Hamas consider the PLO to be (albeit corrupted) the representative of the Palestinian state, how could they (a faction of that state) ask a country to openly oppose the PLO in the UN?
I have no trouble seeing it this way.
This I'm more skeptical of. Like I said, this would amount to openly splitting the Palestinian state, which is something AFAIK Hamas has always put extreme effort into avoiding doing. On top of that, it's (IMO) nearly certain that a veto would not have prevented this from going forwards. It has the support of the Americans, all the Arab countries, and the PLO. It's going to happen. Even if it didn't, the only real important factor there related to the UN vote is the support of the Americans. AFAIK, the UN has never really stopped them from doing anything before. It wasn't going to start now.