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north korea/the dprk should've been a de leonist country - if the soviet union DIDN'T go for kim il-sung, they should've went with someone else (regardless of whether or NOT they favor de leonism). seriously!

EDIT: what i mean is that north korea should've been a de leonist country to begin with (from the 1940s). seriously!

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[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i mean if north korea is a de leonist country from the 1940s. seriously!

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Everyone understood what you meant and that's why they reject it. Post-WWII Korea was a semi-feudal ex-colony. Aside from syndicalism being a completely inadequate ideology anywhere, they are right that it's farcical in this context. Next, shall we say that the Ikko-Ikki or Thomas Müntzer or Spartacus should have been De Leonists?

I can't tell if this is a bit account. If so, it's not a tasteful joke. seriously!

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I can't tell if this is a bit account. If so, it's not a tasteful joke. seriously!

I think this is a young user. They've made quite a few posts that seem sincere, and repeatedly denied doing a bit. They're not acting combative or toxic, so I think there's no harm in them asking questions like this here and getting answers. We all learn somehow. Agreed that it wouldn't be tasteful as a bit, though.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I certainly agree that that's what they are if they are sincere, I just find certain elements like the density of repetition in phrasing and such kind of strange, along with posting a fair bit but without replying very much even to people who are nice, or so it looked in the other thread.

Anyway, I agree that it's better regardless to treat them as sincere.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

OP has also stated that they are neurodivergent in another of their threads a while back, iirc.

I also think the "seriously!" endings started about then too, after so many people accused them of doing a bit.

[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

my point is that north korea should've been leftcom to begin with. seriously!

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure leftcom is seriously incompatible with De Leonism/syndicalism in the sense that leftcom, while also silly, is revolutionary. It comes across like you're just kind of stringing words together. Can I suggest reading a book on leftist theory instead of trying to stitch things together from the incoherent patchwork of Wikipedia?

[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

are there any ways i can read leftist theory without losing focus quickly?

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
  1. asking for "leftist theory" is a really broad question. What is it you want to focus on?

2);If youre having trouble engaging with the typical texts, like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and so on, there are plenty of more modern writers who have explained, elaborated on, and brought the ideas to the 21st century. For instance, if you are having trouble with a particular Lenin work, maybe look up some newer writers who have dissected what youre reading.

  1. theres also communities on hexbear dedicated to theory questions and discussions, that could be a help.
[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i WOULDN'T focus on stalin - i prefer the usual stuff; marx, lenin, trotsky, de leon, any socialist theorist!

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your thoughts on Stalin aside, you need to choose a subject to read about. Do you want to read about Marxist philosophy? Do you want to read about imperialism? What specifically do you want to read ABOUT?

[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You need to narrow things down so people can recommend specific works

[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm looking for any socialist books from any perspective (marx, lenin, stalin, trotsky, de leon, bernstein, luxembourg, anyone!). if you have any recs, please let me know. seriously!

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

State and Revolution, by Lenin.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is there someone you forgot to ask? parenti

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

That depends a lot on the specifics of your own proclivities. I personally really like audiobooks and that helped me get into things. My favorite is this reading of Socialims: Utopian and Scientific.

It's also not the most satisfying answer, but it's worth noting that keeping one's focus is a skill and it will improve at least a little as you attempt to exercise it, even if you "fail".

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

but how different would it be tho? the leonist DPRK now elects people to the goverment via votes from union members instead of votes from people assembles?