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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 92 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Hillary Clinton is why Donald Trump is president today. Her incompetence and evil led to Trump's ascendancy.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 31 points 3 weeks ago

In the US, democrats are considered the left/middle of the political spectrum.

In the rest of the world, Democrats are considered right wing.

This is some right wing shit.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

No. It was the electoral college. She won the popular vote. Both parties work for Israel

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Should have been Bearnie.

Q.E.D.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

She had Trump run for office, because she couldn't beat the current GOP. Also she cheated in her own primary. Yes she the reason for Trump. And fuck her crawl back into your cave. We don't need or want her input.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

It should've been a landslide in her favor, but no one was getting excited at more neolib business as usual

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats would have won had they nominated a candidate who wasn't comically evil like Hillary Clinton.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bernie would have easily won, but so would almost anyone else. Democrats ard really good at finding horrible candidates.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s almost like they’re paid by the same lobbyists as the republicans to perform political theater for the same puppet masters.

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

In its self-described “pied piper” strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new “mainstream of the Republican Party” in order to try to increase Clinton’s chances of winning.

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn that’s horrible. Well my household checked the Bernie box. We were extremely upset with the DNC’s shady dealings.

[–] lady_maria@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hillary is a POS. But to blame it on her, at least entirely, makes very little sense. There are numerous reasons why he won... despite the fact that HE lost the popular vote against her.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He won because democrat voters assumed the polls were right and no one was stupid enough to vote Trump. So they didn't vote. America is very difficult to underestimate.

As for 2024, who the fuck knows.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

It's not complicated, American voters vote out the incumbent if they're not happy with how things in general are going. Obama won reelection because he was a fantastic speaker and politician. Trump would have lost this election if he was the incumbent.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats would have won, and Donald Trump would have never happened if Democrats had nominated someone better.