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[–] io@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Here's the goomba fallacy in a nutshell:

It's basically two fallacies of composition together. I think Kairos is saying it applies in this case because of the greentext.

(Another name for the same fallacy is the "Muhammad Chang" fallacy. Basically: if the most common name is Muhammad, and the most common surname is Chang, then the most common full name should be Muhammad Chang.)

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Muhammad Chang

I willing to bet there are people named like this in indonesia and west china (uyghur province)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Most likely, but it isn't the most common full name in the world. Because typically people with one don't have the other.

(Plus family names aren't even obligatory in Indonesia, and Muhammad is so common among Muslims around the world that they typically have also a second personal name — like "Muhammad Osman".)

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

that's fair. At first glance Muhammad Chang sounds impossible as the two cultures are quite separate, but I tried to think of overlaps.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What would A and B be in this case?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

It's all implied, but:

A: fetishising trans women +> treating trans women as women
B: refusing trans women rights +> not treating trans women as women

Or something like this. She's implying a lot of stuff into the post.

Note the "core" of the text is simply taunting that shithole full of bigots, and boils down to "your claims that nobody treats me like a woman are wrong, because chasers exist".

[EDIT: to be clear, I'm trying to interpret what she said; not condoning or condemning her, I'm in no position to do either. And what comes below is more of a comment on society being fucked up.]

It's like a fucking lasagna made of shit, you remove a layer of shit, then there's another layer of shit below, recursively. 4chan's "hurr durr you never be a woman", society refusing human rights (such as, you know... trans rights?), fetishisation (a type of objectivisation)...

[–] lime@feddit.nu 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i'm reading it more like refusing trans women rights is treating them like women have historically been treated.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

That's what I'm reading too, a cynical joke.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This, too. And there's a third way to read it:

  • transgender porn relies on porn actresses taking breast mints
  • people refuse to give trans people rights, that includes letting trans women take breast mints if they so desire

Two more layers to the shit lasagna, I guess...

[Note: I'm not trans. So, please, if anyone who's trans find something I said is wrong, or bullshit, please do point it out.]

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What, porn based on taking titty pills? Revolutionary. Next you'll tell me people will take dick pills for porn.

Also, I think what you said is right.