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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's infuriating how stupid and wrong JD Vance is.

First, "people" didn't take Kirk's life. One person did. Nobody else knew about it beforehand.

Second, we don't know exactly how the shooter identified because he hasn't said.

Third, even if he recently identified as left-wing for a year, the entire rest of his life, he was right-wing.

Fourth, a single person, acting alone, cannot be used to make conclusions about a group they are a member of. You have to know the context of the group.

Left-wing people's mainstream rhetoric is significantly less violent than right-wing people's mainstream rhetoric. That's why it's natural to assume that his actions were motivated by his right-wing upbringing, regardless of where his motivations came from.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You assume he's not intentionally picking his words in order to manipulate his base for his own political benefit.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I guess you're referring to me using the word "stupid." But I am referring to the sentiment that he's expressing. It's not only wrong. It's just so obviously wrong that... let's say the average middle schooler should be able to see through it. It's just stupid.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Ah, I see what you mean now. Sadly, a significant chunk of Americans are all too willing to let a demagogue do the thinking for them.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Fascists need and enemy. They’re trying to paint anyone not on their side as dangerous, to justify hurting us and dehumanize us.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago

its also a person further right than kirk too.