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[–] Feadogbandit@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

The gun lobby and those funded by them? Sounds good.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

They will get around to killing each other eventually. Its not like they can every be a united front.

[–] JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Take the country back... Buddy your party had a super majority, using that phrasing under that context really just makes you sound like fascist

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 hours ago

The way that he has absolutely vanished from most media attention says that NOBODY misses Charlie Kirk. Least of all his wife.

The shooter certainly didn't miss him.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

if this were a socialist/communist society, jd vance would've been in jail for reactionary speech. seriously!

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The shooter could have been a trans communist furry and it would be a speck of dust against an overwhelming weight of evidence that the far right, through history, are responsible for severe atrocities.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 hours ago

What radicalized me? I never got to read about the executions of all the Confederate traitors in school because we never actually punished them.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You can spend the rest of your life correcting their bullshit. They'll just made up more.

This cultural war is about quantity, not quality.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 45 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

"take the country back" dude, you're the fucking vice president of the United States, your party controls all three branches of government and did so when Kirk was killed...you want to take the country back from yourself or something?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

They want to purge the country not just be in control.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 7 points 9 hours ago

Poor rich white men being such victims of oppression...

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Kirk, Fuck Vance, Fuck Trump

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

One down, two to go.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

How does anyone takes these sad and pathetic losers seriously?

How stupid and gullible do you have to be to look up to these fucking clowns? THESE are your role models?

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Allegedly. I don't believe Charlie's murder went down the way they say it did. So many questions don't have answers. And fuck JD vance.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

The evidence is even sketchier than the Luigi evidence.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 74 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

But he was trans!

Oh wait, I mean, his lover was trans.

Oh wait, I mean his roommate was trans.

Oh wait, surely someone was trans...?

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 15 hours ago

I hear he rode on a train once. Close enough?

[–] Devworker@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Maybe he had a trans frog??

Or like the... bullets!! Yes the bullets were differently trans! How could they do this !! 😭

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 82 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It's infuriating how stupid and wrong JD Vance is.

First, "people" didn't take Kirk's life. One person did. Nobody else knew about it beforehand.

Second, we don't know exactly how the shooter identified because he hasn't said.

Third, even if he recently identified as left-wing for a year, the entire rest of his life, he was right-wing.

Fourth, a single person, acting alone, cannot be used to make conclusions about a group they are a member of. You have to know the context of the group.

Left-wing people's mainstream rhetoric is significantly less violent than right-wing people's mainstream rhetoric. That's why it's natural to assume that his actions were motivated by his right-wing upbringing, regardless of where his motivations came from.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You assume he's not intentionally picking his words in order to manipulate his base for his own political benefit.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I guess you're referring to me using the word "stupid." But I am referring to the sentiment that he's expressing. It's not only wrong. It's just so obviously wrong that... let's say the average middle schooler should be able to see through it. It's just stupid.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Ah, I see what you mean now. Sadly, a significant chunk of Americans are all too willing to let a demagogue do the thinking for them.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Fascists need and enemy. They’re trying to paint anyone not on their side as dangerous, to justify hurting us and dehumanize us.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

its also a person further right than kirk too.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago

and jd vance wants to take over TPUSA, hence why erika wants to sleep with him, because she cant do it on her own.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 25 points 20 hours ago

It's the liberals fault that Charlie wasn't racist enough and attracted the ire of the goypers.

I guess.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The KKK lynched more white people than black people...

History is too important to ignore, they're 100% slow walking their followers to take the hate and violence past racism and apply it to anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything.

I get why the fascist followers don't understand, but it's legitimately scary so many opposed to fascism haven't spent any time at all learning about how these movements work.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not finding a source for your first claim - do you happen to have any?

The KKK is vehemently anti-everything-not-WASP, but it seems majority lynchings were still against black American citizens.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 25 points 23 hours ago

I can’t find any studies for the KKK specifically, but overall lynchings in the US only had the number of white victims exceed the number of black victims once from 1882-1968:

And based on some quick research it looks like that might be due to lynchings occurring in the Wild West against accused criminals, not based on racial bias. Given the general character of the KKK I wouldn’t expect the number of white victims they lynched to outnumber the black victims, although they did also target white people who worked with black rights organizations.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Never heard of white KKK hangings. Always colored.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago

You’re really living up to my tag for you: “confidently incorrect”.

That kid certainly didn't miss him.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

You heard the man

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

If he's insinuating a violent civil war, he'll soon learn not all of us lefties are anti-gun and pacifists.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

ALLEGEDLY

We don't actually know that

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But wasn’t the kid in love with his trans roommate, and therefore not ”one of them”?

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Even if he was, this is still taking one random person's actions and applying them to an entire population. This is also the vice president who should definitely not fucking be the one doing that shit, because statements from a leader of the nation obviously carry infinitely more weight on the national psyche and climate of violence

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Were they Mormon or Christian?

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children)
[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

All the churches that I've ever visited deny that Mormons are Christian.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Mormons might say that. Christians say Mormons are a cult. There are pretty big differences in their fundamental beliefs about God.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

By definition a Christian is someone who believes in Christ and Mormons do unequivocally. Though they are no more a cult than any other religion. Every denomination of every religion thinks every other denomination or religion is wrong and a cult, hence why religion does more harm than good in my opinion. 10 billion people, 10 billion religions. Except atheists and agnostics we are all on the same page, but that's not a "religion"

[–] cristo@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The definition of Christian is "one who believes in Christ" I'm aware that Christians don't want Mormons to be part of their in group, but they do believe in Christ and the Bible, so if you want them out you would have to change the fundamental definition of "Christianity". It's wild how many people don't understand the fundamental definitions of words that we all agree to use. I'm literally not asserting anything except that they believe in Christ, and religious people want to freak out about it and say no they don't? Great example of how religion is pernicious and divisive.