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List of blocked words in community names:
Seems like one of the PieFed devs has some opinions about the kind of content they dislike, and are unilaterally forcing that on every PieFed instance. I can somewhat understand filtering out curse words, but specific communities should not blocked by default, and definitely not hidden in a hardcoded list in the source code.
Edit: Important context here: https://lemmy.world/comment/21323475 Seems this blocklist is more limited in scope; it's not blocking federation entirely, just blocking (from what I can tell) their appearance in search and automatically federating with them when adding an instance. Still problematic to exclude specific communities in a non-configurable way with little justification IMO.
Damn this should honestly be spread and talked about more. I don't think many people know this is a thing?
Considering PieFed users won’t shut the fuck up about how much better and less politically opinionated it is, yeah we should probably shout this from the rooftops.
Reminds me of Brave browser users a bit
One of PyFed's selling points was that it was easier to work with than Lemmy. It's going to be amusing when that takes a 180 turn and people start complaining.
Python is great for prototyping and iterating on small projects or as glue for modules written in C and C++. What it isn't great at is linearly scaling on a single node. When the day that throwing more powerful hardware at the problem stops being an option, Kubernetes is going to walk through that door and fuck any semblance of simplicity up.
I would agree with that sentiment, but seems like peoples' actual experiences are a bit different: https://jeena.net/lemmy-switch-to-piefed
Possibly a testament of how software architecture can be more important than any lower level technical decisions.
I think Lemmy has some in-memory data structures that limit the backend to a single node, too. Also postgres is great, but Lemmy really fucked up their database performance somehow.
But yeah large python codebases turn into spaghetti really quickly.
I can confirm this statement.
Can confirm. I spent like 4 hours one day configuring auto vacuum and other shit on my Lemmy DB because it was bloating to hell and eating up resources. Runs much smoother now but it was a massive PITA to get there.
"Ours is not biased and less opinionated, because it agrees with my bias and opinions."
This is every single Lemmy v PieFed argument. No matter what platform you host or use, its just this on the grand scale of things.
They also put "memes" and "enoughmuskspam."
The latter I guess could be used to stop Musk spam (since the community is literally nothing but Elon Musk news) but not allowing the word "memes" in a community name?
Utterly stupid.
But they do appear to be fans of Carlin based on the first 7 banned words.
There's no racial slurs in there either. I might have assumed this was merely an example an operator is meant to edit themselves, but these are some weird ass choices for even that.
Well, it seems specifically 196 just got removed: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/commit/b7a9ea0eea3a80f710e0b5b63cf0bbecde60f8bf
I wonder why the dev had an issue with 196
If I had to guess, 196 is more queer positive.
That still makes no sense
It does if your a bigoted shit face.
Correct, it doesn't. But some people find a way to be bothered by it.
I don't think that's the reason. The code mentions it filtering out "low-effort" communities so the devs probably didn't like seeing so many posts from it on their frontpage.
You're wrong. Rimu has never expressed any objection to pro-LGBT sentiment and has even done interviews in regards to that. I have seen him ban people for anti-LGBT bigotry. This particular ruleset looks like a copy and paste from the retention rules that piefed.social currently has that doesn't save data from communities after 6 months. (RImu doesn't have a high opinion of meme-themed content and believes it to be a drain on server storage).
I agree all of it should be optional, and I believe it currently is anyway as instance owners can revert this.
Actually, they only removed it from 2 places. It's still there https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/app/cli.py#L1026
Duplication of constants is a cherry on that whole cake of stream-of-consciousness code style.
Got any other specific examples?
That's hilarious
I'm not okay with them filtering profanity, who the fuck are they to define what is or is not acceptable?
I don't think it's a good idea either, but it's less egregious than filtering specific communities.
I probably agree, but frankly I find neither acceptable
The stupid thing is that all those words are only in English. No "merda", "scheisse", "joder", "merde", ...
Hard-coded filters, here we go again.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
thanks for pointing to that issue. i dont know how piefed devs reacted to this. so i will give them the benefit of the doubt: it could very well be a quick and dirty solution, never meant to last long.
as the lemmy devs showed, it does not have to be like this at all. but i haven't seen that much oppinionsted and defensive actions from the piefed devs.
I think a regex to filter out common slurs isn't really the same
The regex:
Link to code
That can't be common enough to be included lmao. Also censoring "bitching" is kind hard, now I can't tell everyone about my bitching ride
What are the words in the harcoded Lemmy filter?
George Carlin would be amused.
So if I started a piefed instance and wanted to host a 196 community I'd have to edit the list, but would every single other instance also have to or no?
Yes, every other instance would also refuse to federate unless they also changed their code. Because the blocklist is baked right into the code, so anyone just pulling and running it as-is will fail to federate.
It's odd that communities with those names load if they're hosted on Lemmy, tho. Or maybe I've just only been on Piefed Instances that undid the list.
People were rallying on piefed on resentment from tankie Lemmy devs. But this explains where the piefed devs bias is.
Seems like the intentions are to limit the reach of content critical of a certain country. Hmm...
Isn't there a Java based Lemmy compatible thing too? I forgot what it was called but I think there is one.
Sublinks. It's currently in a hiatus, I think.
Or they like it and e.g. want just one strong 196 community.
That nobody is federated to.
What is a "196" community? I tried looking it up and there's only astrology stuff coming up.
It's a meme community with a special rule (see the sidebar).
https://www.reddit.com/r/196/ (the original)
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/onehundredninetysix