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I don't understand why the danish officials they even wasted their time to go to Washington to "talk" about this. There's nothing to talk about this.
Have they ever tried to reason with a toddler that's having a tantrum "I want that toy now"? Waste of time.
Simple: if the toddler has found daddy’s gun because the safe was left open… you better try talking before you scare it.
This is not a toddler, this is a guy bigger than you and with lots of guns and friends. Talking is our only option, especially because it means we can also go against the narrative that Denmark cannot defend Greenland.
Which is true in isolation, but that's why we're in NATO and the joint arctic command and have the 1951 deal with the US that you guys can scale up military presence in Greenland at will. Yet it hadn't happened in 20 years, only reductions.
Personally I think we should have gone more into how Biden refused to increase the defense of the arctic region within the agreement, give the trumpists a way to call him names and solve the issue within the agreements we have.
Still, Lars Løkke has been doing the rounds on Fox News and elsewhere to give our perspective, which could influence public opinion and help change the false narratives being spread in the US. From our perspective we had everything to gain from a meeting and very little to lose.
Even if biden had done all that, musk would have undone it for his orange god
That's not the point, though. The point is to try and change the narrative to be more, shall we say, fact-based. And maybe talk to someone less mental than Trump.
Good luck finding anyone like that with enough pull to matter
Well, that's what our people did yesterday. Even if Vance is a piece of shit he's not deranged like Trump, and Rubio is also someone you can have a productive discussion with as a foreign nation provided, of course, that the racist grandpa in charge of your nation calms down for a second and stops posting lies about Greenland every 30 minutes.
Vance, Rubio and Miller are even worse war mongers and ultra rightwing fascist pieces of shit. They are worse than Trump becuse they are younger and can do more damage for a longer period of time. Trump, all his enablers, toadies, and yes men-need to go.
No, they're not worse than trump. They don't have the cult of personality that Trump has. They're also not as delusional as trump. They know that they can't take on the entire world and would rather get what they want diplomatically. They're definitely just as evil as trump, yes. But they simply don't have the draw. Which... Fuck me, I don't understand any draw at all.
There will be a critical mass of people (current sycophants) who extend Trumps fascist policies. This bullshit won’t be over when Trunp finally fucks off.
No, you're right, but it won't have the momentum that they had before. But Vance doesn't have the "charisma" of trump. That narcissistic vibe of "I'm telling you the truth that others won't" bullshit. Vance is just a guy, but Trump sells it like nobody else can. In their heads they're like "who the fuck is Vance? He's not a billionaire" he may be more evil, but he's not as dangerous.
True there’s not many who can debase themselves beyond parody like Shittler can.
They have nothing to lose in doing so.
At worst "conversations" delay an American invasion giving more time for Denmark to prepare.
Any half-competent diplomat will ignore "pride" as a consideration for a chance at stopping a war or at least giving their own side's military more time to prepare, with no actual downside (if that fails they get the exact same outcome as if they didn't engage in "conversations").
Also no doubt a lot of "out of the spotlight" work is going into convicing the members of that Administration who are actually intelligent types putting on a "derranged far-right populist" act for Trump and the American Public, that such a move will indirectly be bad for them personally because of the downsides for the people who own them - big American businesses - of turning Europe into an Enemy rather than merely a trade competitor.
Did Poland, Austria and France try to reason with Hitler??
Kurt Schuschnigg, Austrian Chancellor, went to talk with Hitler in 1938, and under his pressure added Austrian Nazis to his government, for example on the Interior Minister post.
France officially complained about the re-militarization of the Rhineland in 1936, and later about the Anschluss of Austria in 1938.
Poland talked to Hitler and rejected their demands to hand over Danzig in 1937.
So I guess yes, on specific points at specific times. But I'm not sure if that's the kind of thing you meant?
Yes?
And what was the point of trying to reason with a war mongering lunatic? He invaded anyway, France capitulated. Lesson being: you cannot appease dictators and wannabe (for now) invaders. And you should never appease fascists.
To make the US even more isolated.