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[–] kriz@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Do not change the agency. It cannot be reformed. It MUST be abolished, demand nothing less.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Absolutely, if only to make it really clear to future Americans that this kind of behavior from a government agency is completely unacceptable and leads to real consequences. Besides that, it's a way easier policy lift than Defund the Police - we could just go back to how we did things in the 90s and bring back Immigration and Naturalization Services, who were more like DMV workers making sure paperwork was in order than the psychopath gun wielding spec ops wannabes that have always made up Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Of course, since this is such an obvious good idea, the second worst group of people in America are going into overdrive right now - "Dems Are Begging Their Own to Drop ‘Abolish ICE’ - A new memo circulating on Capitol Hill urges Democratic lawmakers to instead embrace reforming the agency." (arc)

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yep, ICE needs to relegated to the American History Hall of Shame,.along with Slavery, The Native American Genocide, the Japanese Internment on WW2, etc., and of course, MAGA.

And I'm not even kidding. When this is over, we should erect an American History Hall of Shame in Washington DC, and require schools to add curriculum that includes rigorous discussion of our indelible sins, at every level of schooling, from elementary through high school. High Schools should include it on their field trips.

American students should be taught about the evils that they have a civic responsibility to actively resist. I don't how the rest of the word could ever trust America again, if we don't acknowledge our past, and show true remorse and contrition, and pledge to be more vigilant of Democracy in the future.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago

I'd vote to spend money on that. We would finally have a building worthy of sticking Trumps name on.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 month ago

I support change.

A change from ICE and DHS existing to not.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This. Even if we view this as corruption of their original mission (it isn't), at a certain point, the only thing to do with a structure that's rotted so much is to pull it down and start fresh. Corruption is cancer, and allowing any corrupt entities to exist within the system means that corruption will spread back in.