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Expert Who Ran Simulations on 'How Civil Wars Start' Warns Minnesota Is Exactly What It Looks Like
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one involves organizing a resistance effort with your neighbors to keep vulnerable members of your community of your safe
the other involves saying "i don't appreciate being killed" as you're killed
USians seem to be pathologicaly blind to everything that doesn't involve them shooting each other, it's like some kind of curse you'all have. Nobody can even imagine that there is something between politely talking and a civil war. How are you still alive as a country and individually is a great mystery
i've been pleading the world around me to stop the shooting for 19 years now. an overt fascist wing is running the country now. we missed the opportunity for polite discussion i'm afraid.
i said in another comment that where we are right now is that 1/3 of the country, the 1/3 in control, fully plans to kill the other 2/3 of the country. 1/3 of the country is working to slow or stop them. a remaining 1/3 doesn't understand this is happening.
Yeah, that you probably did. So the next logical step is shoot each other, right? Damn, if only I wrote a comment describing this exact thing a while ago, I could just reference it.
Cuz we ending WW2 by talking to Hitler and asking him to stop. Braindead take to think fascists give up power willingly.
We didn't end it by virtue of some random people running around with their guns. It took coordinated effort of many of organisations and governments. Do you understand what I'm saying and why?
And those efforts required guns/shooting each other, undermining your original point
It did at the time, because in fascist countries the only ones who were truly organised and had a plan were fascists, so they overpowered the resistance that couldn't get their shit together for long enough to combat this new and unprecedented narrative.
Now in new fascist countries, the narrative needs to be combated is old and very precedented, but people that could form resistance groups don't do that, instead they're doing the opposite of what needs to be done: sitting around alone in their homes, clutching their handguns, and shitposting on the internet, hoping that when icetapo comes to them, they will heroically shoot them all and save the day.
Oh those people existed then too. There are those of us that are building solidarity in our communities as well, and our numbers are swelling
Not enough, not quickly enough, and often not in the ways that matters
Unless you can offer examples of "not in the ways that matter" and alternatives, I'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about.
Ok, your saying it takes a large, coordinated effort. Not a bunch of people running around with guns. Was not clear to me, sorry.
i've been reflecting on this for a couple hours trying to gather my thoughts and find where it is i'm failing. so let's go through what we've been through to get here
in all of this, we have continued to get killed. now the only pretext our killers need is that they want to kill us. and so we're falling into a civil war because we've exhausted everything else.
and still, across lemmy i get told to either fight my police directly, or someone like you tells me that fighting the police is not the only option.
the only conclusion i can reach is a lot of people who don't know what we're going through feel real confident they know better than me what's going on
Trolling or stupid? I’ll let you pick which one you are.
You're suggesting polite talk, to this?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-execution-of-democratic-members-of-congress-in-shocking-barrage-of-posts/ar-AA1QPey5
https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2025/11/trump-death-threat-democrats-military-video-sedition-federal-government/
The people we need to talk to, to negotiate with, just stormed in and took a country and are threatening to take a few more.
You act as if negotiations haven't been tried and failed.
Trully, the levels of reading comprehension I've come to expect. Shoot a gun at your screen, maybe that will help you read, I don't know
ohh gotcha, trolling, hey good luck with that, have a block on me
So you'd rather assume everyone around you is trolling, than even entertain the possibility that you might be wrong and didn't actually read correctly what you're answering to. You can spend 10 seconds to re-read, but you either didn't do that, or did and still didn't understand.
It's not uncommon, but still very depressing to see every time. We should be better. You should be better.