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I wish the EU would get off the pot and destroy Russia already. It is a dagger pointed at their backside, just waiting for an open conflict to erupt between the US and the EU. Getting rid of Russia would go a long way towards safeguarding democracy and human decency.
Plus, the EU can invest into Ukraine. They have excellent resources, and truly blooded soldiers with expertise in modern warfare. Having them teach the EU how to fight sooner than later would be invaluable if the US attacks the EU.
Be it humanitarian or pragmatic, there is no downside in the EU doing the right thing.
Europe could definitely do more, but I don't think a brute force removal of the current russian elite is feasible without huge loss of life.
Since apparently these days you could just fly into a capital and kidnap a president after a few months of training, simulation and bribery maybe they could do something like that for Putin and the main Russian oligarchs. Clear out the trash in one go and avoid war. But I think this is also too optimistic.
Timidity is a good way to lose control over a situation - be it at a personal or national level. The longer that the EU drags their feet, the harder things will become when the choice to take action is no longer possible.
One way or another, the EU should do more. Support Ukraine directly, declare war on Putin, call in Agent 47. The important thing, is that inaction inherently lends itself to allowing someone more assertive to take control. That someone shouldn't be Putin nor Trump.
You mean the regime and the mobsters aiming to abolish all restrictions on their wealth.
Have you heard about a guy named Napoleon and also Hitler? History can be interesting. You don't just "get rid of Russia" and also that statement is a little ambiguous. Are you talking government overthrow? Mass genocide? The former takes time and latter is not an option in our global world.
You clearly haven't watched nearly enough Kings and Generals, listened to Behind the Bastards, nor read The Cartoon History of the Universe. Leaders and nations change all the time, be it by death, conquest, reform, or revolution. It happens a ton, we just occupy a slim frame of observable time within our lifespans.
Historians would someday be writing about all sorts of details that aren't visible to us right now.
True, I don't argue any of that.
There's zero shot that the US attacks Europe I refuse to believe in that timeline
If we invaded Greenland, that would be tantamount to an attack on Europe. Pretty decent chance of that happening at some point the way things are going.
That was my thinking back in 2016. I was astonished when I woke up to the news because how could he be elected in favour of her? It makes no sense.
The U.S. has a history of fucking around even among "allies" to them so I fully believe that they could invade us.
China is far more likely to do something about Russia than the EU is.
I wouldn't be surprised if China takes a bite out of Russia. It would be a way to look like a 'good and tough guy', and would avoid the risks that comes with trying to take Taiwan. Right now, Russia is in no shape to defend their eastern flank.
Personally I think it is more likely for China to attack Taiwan, but the Russian option is certainly there if Xi gets cold feet.
It's far easier on multiple fronts for China to just buy their way in Russia. They are already doing that around Africa. They just need to buy (or more likely bribe) their way in with infrastructure projects, promise of jobs and wealth and so on to local governments. When they have permission they can then just build whatever they want, bring in chinese workers and transport materials and/or profits back home. No need for complicated politics, military or anything like that. Just a fun little tweak on western capitalism model.
I feel like that's a really easy thing to say if one ignores that Europe has lived through two world wars and many of the people who fought them are still alive.
No. Your position is what gave Nazi Germany the opportunity to do all the things it did. Russia is kidnapping Ukranian children, sending drones into EU territory, sabotaging infrastructure with their shadow fleet, manipulating American elections, and more.
Russia is an enemy of the EU, and should be taken care of. Delaying what must be done, will only ensure that Russia and Dogey America can work together to spitroast European nations.
Totally, man.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Destroying a country is "the right thing"? Homey you're part of the problem.
The destruction of Nazi Germany is a good thing. Same goes for Imperial Japan, and the American Confederacy. The Russia we have today sucks, and should be taken out. The people of Russia certainly aren't benefiting from their leadership, and sometimes an forceful change by external powers is the better way out of a bad situation.
As an American, I am expecting a 2nd American Civil War. I would like outside nations to align against Dogey America, be it by pen or sword. What is good for the goose, is also good for the gander.
What about Israel? Should it be "destroyed" as well?
Considering that they engage in genocide, I would say so.
YES
Now you're being willfully ignorant. He's made clear his meaning, definitions, and point. If you still refuse to interpret it in the way he clearly intended, that's your problem.
Marshall Plans are essential for replacing a bad nation with a better one. Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, and much of the EU were put on a much better path because of them.
In my nation, Reconstruction was halted early. Aside from limiting the power of surviving members of the confederacy, a continued Reconstruction would have allowed people of good character to leave a greater mark on Southern society. The building of a better nation, is crucial for rehabilitating a broken one.
With all due respect, you might want to improve your English reading comprehension before participating in English-language political arguments.
nazi simp. ewwwwww
I hardly think it's "humanitarian" to "get rid of/destroy Russia" or any other country full of innocent people just living their lives, simply because their leaders are fucking the world over (and I'm not just saying because as an American, I can relate). Regime change? Sure, absolutely, let's try it. Talking about the whole nation as if they were an infestation with no real purpose other than the eradication of "human decency"? Those are literal, almost verbatim, Nazi talking points my friend. Please be better than that, I know you can
It depends on what is meant by “destroy”. I interpret it as “destroy in its current form”, not “erase from the map”.
Destroy in the way that Nazi Germany was destroyed, or the British Empire was destroyed. The people and places still exist, but are structured differently.
Not in the way that Palestine is being destroyed now where there is literally bare emptiness where the people were.