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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (14 children)

So seriously, what's going to replace Discord? Everyone wants to leave, but to where?

And no, Matrix is not and will never be a viable alternative

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Someone has made a large spreadsheet of discord alternatives, with comparisons of features, that might help people decide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14vicw-V9Z5m7ckuburP5wxyDIIb_fFJFEjnxxHk8qRw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[–] rickywithanm@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I’m interested to know why matrix isn’t viable for you? I’ve been trialing it recently with friends and it seems to tick all our boxes. I do admit I don’t do large communities personally

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The problem isn't that there are no alternatives. It's that there's like 50 alternatives. Centralization makes us vulnerable, but it's also super convenient.

There's a reason we preferred reddit and now Lemmy instead of different forums with different logins for everything.

The biggest problem with getting off Discord is fragmentation of communities.

Reddit can't die fast enough. I miss niche subreddits

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fluxer is the alterative it does 90% the same thing. Has a sub model for the users who need a centralized option or large communities they can't self host for

And it offers self hosting for free if you don't want to pay the sub. Self hosting has no restrictions.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

But Fluxer is one dozens of platforms that do what Discord does. If it was the only one, it would be easier to move.

But as it is people who are on 20 discord groups don't want to deal with migrating to 20 different platforms, so they're just staying where they are.

[–] Flyingrock@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Honestly I'd love different forums with only a centralized login system that can be optionally used, sorta how ezboard were at one point.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

First one of those contenders that solves federation in a nice way would be a winner. Quite a lot of them has it on their roadmap so my hopes are not completely lost.

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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's Stoat (formerly Revolt) and Fluxer. Additionally, Steam has many Discord-like features in app.

[–] rickywithanm@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t like how fluxer is already paywalling features that other platforms don’t. It feels like discord all over again

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fluxer is AGPv3, recently promised to remove their CLA so the software stays free forever, has an ambitious roadmap with federation, and is currently being worked on by one 22 yr old dude.

It's very different than Discord.

This chad needs help. I'm more than happy to support him. This is an investment in Open Source™ and the future. If he can't work on this full-time or near full-time, he's gonna need to work for Google or some shit. Then it's never going to be able to compete with Discord.

They're also not going to be able to run Fluxer on powerful enough hardware. Take a look at Stoat. Similar idea. No funding. Their main server is HELLA slow, which I don't think it's their fault. The app is written in Rust, but it feels like it's running on a potato.

paywalling features that other platforms don’t

I might be wrong here, but I thought you could self-host Fluxer to get around the paywalls. So you could do that. What a gift! And federation is on the way, so maybe one day you can self-host AND talk to other instances! Amazing!

[–] rickywithanm@aussie.zone 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

Thank you for adding more information I’d only had a surface look at Fluxer

E: It seems like the documentation page for self hosting currently is incomplete

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

The cla removal is already done I thought on the Canary branch.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fluxer. Literally just fluxer.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

Just looked at fluxer's website. That shit looks prime for a copyright lawsuit; it looks exactly like discord.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I've seen mentioned these:

  • Stoat - pretty much same UI, based in UK, not sure where they get $$
  • Fluxer - looks virtually like 1:1 Discord clone, based in Sweden, has paid tier pretty much like Nitro on Discord on official server
  • Nerimity - a little different UI, but still very Discord-y, based in UK, sourced from donations
  • Movim - this one is interesting, but it's not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X), origin in France
  • Strafe - looks like Discord, supposedly have e2ee
  • Spacebar - reverse engineered Discord, IDK about maturity of this one
  • Adapt - another wanna be
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

but it’s not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X)

It has a built-in blog feature that communities or individuals can use to post announcements or articles to the whole instance, but it's pretty easily ignored by just clicking the messages tab, which doesn't show them at all, and makes the interface look more like Discord.

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

It's literally on Fluxer.

Pros:

  • AGPLv3, WITHOUT a CLA
  • Familiar Discord UI
  • Text and voice channels
  • Images, attachments, gifs
  • Emojis, reactions
  • Screensharing and video calls
  • Main server runs decently fast
  • Federation is coming
  • Not based in UK or US

Cons:

  • Only 1 dude working on it
  • You can optionally buy Plutonium, which isn't necessarily bad, they need money, and the code stays Open Source™
  • No mobile app yet (they're working on it)
  • The main server has had some downtime... which I think are just growing pains
  • I don't have friends to invite to Fluxer
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

Considering how many people are literally demanding and harassing the dev of fluxer to let him let them help him. I don't think the 1 dude working on it is going to be a problem for long lol

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This looked perfect! Right up until the no API support. By no means am I asking of that either, just happens to look really nice but also lack that feature.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Oh cool my bad! Didnt dig deep enough into it. I'll have to give it a look

[–] Flyingrock@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've also seen Roomy and Voltage mentioned around too but haven't personally looked into them.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The MIT license of Voltage is a big red flag for me, as it could allow for either a corporate takeover, or for the company to abandon the open-source version in favor of a closed-source version that they can sell or enshittify.

Roomy has pretty much the same problem being licensed under the MPL license, which allows for the project to be packaged into a closed-source proprietary product. I'd avoid it too, despite it being federated. The license is just too risky, and the only reason not to choose GPL is because the devs likely want that capital purchase exit strategy.

There's a lot devs who know there's potentially a lot of money to me made in a successful Discord alternative. They smell the blood in the water, know the venture capital vultures it attracts, and they'll try to exploit the free labor that open-source projects bring, only to sell us out down the road after all the work has been done.

I'd say any option we move to must be licensed under GPL as a hard requirement, as that ensures it can never be exploited by corpos, and will remain owned by the community forever so that we don't have to migrate again any time soon.

The two best options on the table that fill that niche are:

  • Movim (Pros: GPL, federated, encrypted, can do chat, voice calls and screenshare, based on the battle tested XMPP open standard. Cons: is currently missing discord-like rooms, but the dev is working in it)
  • Fluxer (New kid on the block, still very buggy, but is AGPL licensed and plans federation and encryption in the future. Backend is still unproven, don't know how well it scales, but one to keep an eye on)
[–] Flyingrock@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Thank you for the information on the license of both programs!

[–] stom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Stoat still doesn't have screenshare. It's also a bloody stupid name - I have no idea who thought that re-brand was a good idea.

Fluxer seems to support it though.

BNoth can be self-hosted, which is a nice bonus.

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[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why is "one-to-one clone of Discord" the goal for everyone? Why not set your sights on a making a good UX instead?

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Well, Discord's UI is certainly not the holy grail, but it's quite functional and people are used to it. So it's pretty much logical you copy the concept to some extent when you want to appeal to these people?

[–] CheesyFox 18 points 1 day ago

ngl, discord kinda had the best UX before the enshittification began

I don't think it's necessarily the goal — Discord is just a helpful yardstick to compare things to as a baseline (and some people are looking for something that replaces Discord as closely as possible). Having to switch services is a pain, and whilst it's not optimal in the long term to just try to replace a thing with a clone, I can see why people don't have the executive function energy to think too hard about this.

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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Matrix is not

With LiveKit for calls / screen share, it is for my group. Though I'm not saying it doesn't have issues.

will never be

Community-developed homeservers like continuwuity have gotten a lot of new support on the last few weeks. Clients like cinny are getting pretty close to a replacement ux wise (if you look at PR2599 on Cinny's GitHub, they are working on and will soon merge support for LiveKit in a way that is very close to voice channels).

I also generally think that the only way to replace Discord as an ecosystem where you talk to many people from different communities is a federated protocol, not a bunch of new silos, one for each community.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have no first person experience but I've read Matrix' lack of "Discord-like server" grouping is terrible for moderation where you have to manually set permissions for each "room". If that's actually true it's literally impossible for it to become proper discord alternative.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A discord server-like would be a space, containing channel-like rooms. The main difference is that rooms can also exist independent of spaces, if you just need a single chat for some people instrad of a group of chats.

You can set permissions for a whole space, it's just that they currently work differently than Discord. Members have a power level, and you set the power level from which each function is available. So, e.g. Sending messages from Pl 0 (representing normal users), banning users from PL 50 (representing moderators), changing server settings from level 100 (representing administrators).

It sounds complicated, but once you get used to it it's pretty easy.

[–] jeff@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've moved to Matrix from Discord for two small friend groups (<6 people each). Matrix is a fine replacement for the small friend Discord. But it has awhile to go before it can replace 1000+ people servers

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The bigger issue is that reports currently don't federate. A report will always go to the admin of your homeserver (which might be you) not the admin of the homeserver the room you're in is on, nor the admin of the homeserver of the other users.

Most larger (1-2k people) communities get around that by just having you ping the mods in reply to the offending content, which is a band-aid.

A spec for federated reports is apparently being worked on, but not yet available.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

Does irc even have voice? Or game streaming? Or emojis? Or persistent chat where if you're out of service or offline but then you come back into service/online you can see what you missed?

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