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That's one way to put it.
Try this: "Russia is bad for this world"
Are you suggesting Russia should be destroyed?
Specifically Russian leadership. Without a doubt. Try this: "Putin is bad for Russia"
Man, sometimes I hate internet discourse, everything is hyperbole all the time and the only recognized positions are extremes.
"maybe next time dont listen to russian propaganda." - "You think [...] Brexit only exists because of Russia?"
"Russia is bad for this world" - "Are you suggesting Russia should be destroyed?"
It's so draining.
totally agree. they're bad faith actors. said my piece, but not for his benefit. now i block him.
Yeah, almost as draining as hearing idiots claim that everything is part of a huge Russian plot, so they don't have to actually change their failing strategies.
It's been 10 years now and you chuckleheads are still doing it.
And again jumping on shit nobody here said or even insinuated.
Someone just mentions that Brits should not have listened to Russian propaganda concerning Brexit and you immediately start this entire script fighting one strawman after another, somehow ending up in american politics for fucks sake.
Nobody said it was only due to propaganda, nobody even said it was mainly due to propaganda, nobody said that Russia should be destroyed.
Calm down mate, take a breather and stop fighting things you just imagine that other people are saying, because they're not.
I'm not your mate - she left a long time ago, my little chickenhawk.
You certainly won't make any, or make anyone listen to you, by name calling and declaring people idiots like this. That's not how you make people listen to you. "Hey, idiots/chuckleheads/etc!"
π You are only yelling into the void... Just a quick personality check for you, dear. It could be healthy to do one every now and then. β€οΈπ
~~This 'Iβm so tired of internet discourse' act is a classic move to shut down a conversation you're losing. Youβre conflating a critique of a toxic leadership with a call for destruction because you canβt actually defend Putinβs record. Russiaβs military is an international embarrassment and its leadership is a global parasite; those aren't 'extreme positions,' theyβre the consensus of anyone not on the Kremlin's payroll. You aren't 'drained'βyou're just out of arguments.~~
Dude, I'm not the person you were responding to and I'm on your side in this?
My bad I am not being thoughtful about this, I am responding to russian shills with AI responses I truly am putting in the minimal amount of effort. Sorry!
wtf
Oh come on!
That is the point!
having listened to enough NAFO chickenhawks talk about how Russia is "orcs" who have no respect for human life while they celebrate the deaths of conscripts from their couch, you might want to be specific about that in the future
Well I never mentioned destroying anyone so I didn't think I needed to specify what needed to be destroyed until that was brought up.
is what I was responding to
I was actually going to say more horrid shit instead of just that but I remembered I have Russian friends and didn't actually feel that way I am just angry.
Sure, and I get that.
But demonizing entire peoples is part of how warmongers get us to support this awful shit to begin with. It's one reason why my take is no war but class war, personally.
TBH, Russia is a country and does not equal Russians citizen. Saying that a country or its existence is bad, doesn't mean all people with citizenship of that county are bad. People will still be there when a country is dissolved.
OK, so you're calling for Russia to be dissolved?
IDK, I couldn't think of what kind of repercussions that would have... That would really depend on how it is dissolved and what would come after it, I suppose.
But TBH, with the right handling, organization and proper new structure, every nation should be dissolved... Cosmopolitanism would have its perks.
Or maybe a worldwide workers' state? Think we're getting there now . . .
Maybe. Als long as it isn't authoritarian, protects the weak from the strong and provides the people with the most personal positive freedom, security and safety, without infringing on the personal freedom of others, it should be fine. On the specifics we will have to work together on.
But we are leading off track. Currently I would say that the machinations of Russia, China, the U.S, Israel, and Iran are not good for the world. And in case authoritarian regimes, this can be traced back to the leaders of these countries, not the population. The fish stinks from the head. So saying this or that country is bad, doesn't mean the population should suffer.
Yes. There is a great point a Greenlander made during that recent thing it was something about "hey americans don't say sorry for trump we are judging you as a whole the same way you judge russia as a whole" and I didn't like that so I should have been more careful with my wording.
I suggest russia china india and america and canada should be decolonised and balcanised
Balkanized.