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[–] brandon@piefed.social 62 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

She's an ape, not a monkey, have some respect.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

All apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Apes and monkeys are separate from each other. Apes are not a kind of monkey.

Both apes and monkeys are primates.

Edit: worth reading down the chain to find that there isn't as clear of a consensus on this as is generally presented.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The distinction between apes and monkeys is complicated by the traditional paraphyly of monkeys: Apes emerged as a sister group of Old World Monkeys in the catarrhines, which are a sister group of New World Monkeys. Therefore, cladistically, apes, catarrhines and related contemporary extinct groups such as Parapithecidae are monkeys as well, for any consistent definition of "monkey". "Old World monkey" may also legitimately be taken to be meant to include all the catarrhines, including apes and extinct species such as Aegyptopithecus,[12][13][14][15] in which case the apes, Cercopithecoidea and Aegyptopithecus emerged within the Old World monkeys.

Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps, but that page you linked seems pretty clear that apes are related closer to old world monkeys than new world moneys, but are still not monkeys?

I don't really intend to argue semantics, but before my original reply to you I akimmed a good dozen links incluthat Wikipedia page and they all say apes and monkeys are related but different.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I literally quoted the part that says apes are monkeys by any definition of the word.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 0 points 18 hours ago

Oh shit sorry, it wasn't clear to me that it was a quote! It sounds like if you look too close then it's complicated!

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

All primates are spheres in a vacuum when calculating dominant forces

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If it doesn't have a tail it's not a monkey.

Even if it has a monkey kind-of shape.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

No. In fact, there exist tailless monkeys that are not even apes.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

If it doesn't have a tail, it's not a monkey,

If it doesn't have a tail, it's an ape!