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Before discovering this community, I was in a different community that proudly calls itself leftist. I posted a documentary; Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang which was very eye-opening for me.

Anyway, posting that started to really upset people, saying that the documentary is PSL propaganda. That PSL is authoritarian, backed by a Chinese Maoist billionaire and that PSL is riddled with sex abuse scandals. That of course PSL would simp for DPRK because it's authoritarian. I was even called a holocaust denier for defending DPRK.

So is PSL bad? Where can I find better information on this? I've already tried looking into PSL and it all seems okay? The sex abuse scandals I am not sure about, is there more information on this? Am I being too critical on this?

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That PSL is authoritarian, backed by a Chinese Maoist billionaire

That of course PSL would simp for DPRK because it’s authoritarian.

This part is just the usual reactionary tripe and not be taken seriously. Breaking it down:

  • Authoritarian is a meaningless word: every state has a monopoly on violence in order to hold onto its state power (this does not inherently mean it promotes violence or seeks to abuse its citizens). Socialist states exercise power to suppress the capitalist power and transition to socialism and then to communism, and this is backed by a communist vanguard party. Capitalist states exercise power to suppress the working class more generally, but also consciously liberation-centered groups like those calling themselves socialist, communist, etc. (Takeaway: "Whose interests is power deriving from?" is a meaningful question. "Does power use violence to maintain itself?" is not)
  • "Chinese Maoist billionaire": This is like a mad libs of red scare brain worms. The CPC itself, the vanguard party leadership of China, is not Maoist. They may at times refer back to Mao Zedong Thought, which is different from treating Mao's words as a whole brand of Marxist theory on its own. Though there have been Maoist groups historically, who took Mao's words more as dogma than "socialism with Chinese characteristics", they are about as far away from being a billionaire as you can get.
  • "PSL would simp for DPRK because it’s authoritarian": I highly recommend Blowback podcast's season on Korea. It's not a pleasant history to learn about, but it may help in knowing more precisely why such a line is nonsense and why you can rebuff these people with confidence. Korea was brutalized first through Japanese occupation/colonialism and then through the US, the second of which continues this day with the occupation of what gets called "South Korea." Without the DPRK, Korea would probably be a colony of the US and China would probably be in a much weaker position globally. The damage that the US did to Korea, damage to civilians and infrastructure, is horrific. The idea of being called a "holocaust denier" for defending the DPRK is sort of like calling someone a holocaust denier for saying that the holocast was bad. It makes no fucking sense lol. If anyone was abused on a level resembling genocide involving Korea, it was the US doing it to Korea.

that PSL is riddled with sex abuse scandals

Don't know about reported incidents that have come up. It's possible they've had issues with sex pests, but the important part would be how they've handled it. Organizing, especially among people who can be as colonizer-brained as those raised in the US, is going to have problems sometimes. So far, I've not heard anything that would suggest PSL is fundamentally a problematic org, but local branches may vary, as can happen with orgs. As far as I can tell, they appear to be one of the most promising ones the US has in the current state of things, which is not a particularly high bar to meet given how mired the US left is in "reform", but it's something. It's also a reason why the imperialists would want to scare people away from getting involved with them.

Hope that helps.

[–] Emmi@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“PSL would simp for DPRK because it’s authoritarian”: I highly recommend Blowback podcast’s season on Korea. It’s not a pleasant history to learn about, but it may help in knowing more precisely why such a line is nonsense and why you can rebuff these people with confidence. Korea was brutalized first through Japanese occupation/colonialism and then through the US, the second of which continues this day with the occupation of what gets called “South Korea.” Without the DPRK, Korea would probably be a colony of the US and China would probably be in a much weaker position globally. The damage that the US did to Korea, damage to civilians and infrastructure, is horrific. The idea of being called a “holocaust denier” for defending the DPRK is sort of like calling someone a holocaust denier for saying that the holocast was bad. It makes no fucking sense lol. If anyone was abused on a level resembling genocide involving Korea, it was the US doing it to Korea.

On the podcast, is it by RedPylon? Blowback: Season 3? I did look more into Korean history after posting the video and yes it's seriously horrible. I cried reading about what actually happened there.

They also justified the sanctions and military actions on DPRK because the country stole a movie director from Japan? That they also killed Kim Jong-nam in Malasya back in 2017. What is the reality of that? I can't find anything on this other than wikipedia links that they had posted on this. And after realizing just how much propaganda western media has, I am quite disillusioned on where to learn more. (I am so glad I found this place, seriously.)

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

On the podcast, is it by RedPylon? Blowback: Season 3? I did look more into Korean history after posting the video and yes it’s seriously horrible. I cried reading about what actually happened there.

I just checked and yeah, that should be the one I was thinking of. And yeah, it is a hard thing to learn about. 🫂 It's one of those things where, like... I don't know, it's hard to find the right words for it. Like it's important to learn about so we know better what's going on in the world and how things got to the point that they are, so we can contend with how it is now. But that doesn't make it hurt any less on its own. The world still needs liberation.

They also justified the sanctions and military actions on DPRK because the country stole a movie director from Japan? That they also killed Kim Jong-nam in Malasya back in 2017. What is the reality of that? I can’t find anything on this other than wikipedia links that they had posted on this. And after realizing just how much propaganda western media has, I am quite disillusioned on where to learn more. (I am so glad I found this place, seriously.)

I'm not informed on this specific incident myself, but hopefully someone else will know something and chime in. I just know the west has made up some really absurd claims about the DPRK over the years. Like saying they're killing somebody for listening to kpop or stuff like that.