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What's the consensus on PSL? (The Party for Socialism and Liberation) (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Emmi@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

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Before discovering this community, I was in a different community that proudly calls itself leftist. I posted a documentary; Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang which was very eye-opening for me.

Anyway, posting that started to really upset people, saying that the documentary is PSL propaganda. That PSL is authoritarian, backed by a Chinese Maoist billionaire and that PSL is riddled with sex abuse scandals. That of course PSL would simp for DPRK because it's authoritarian. I was even called a holocaust denier for defending DPRK.

So is PSL bad? Where can I find better information on this? I've already tried looking into PSL and it all seems okay? The sex abuse scandals I am not sure about, is there more information on this? Am I being too critical on this?

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[–] Emmi@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“PSL would simp for DPRK because it’s authoritarian”: I highly recommend Blowback podcast’s season on Korea. It’s not a pleasant history to learn about, but it may help in knowing more precisely why such a line is nonsense and why you can rebuff these people with confidence. Korea was brutalized first through Japanese occupation/colonialism and then through the US, the second of which continues this day with the occupation of what gets called “South Korea.” Without the DPRK, Korea would probably be a colony of the US and China would probably be in a much weaker position globally. The damage that the US did to Korea, damage to civilians and infrastructure, is horrific. The idea of being called a “holocaust denier” for defending the DPRK is sort of like calling someone a holocaust denier for saying that the holocast was bad. It makes no fucking sense lol. If anyone was abused on a level resembling genocide involving Korea, it was the US doing it to Korea.

On the podcast, is it by RedPylon? Blowback: Season 3? I did look more into Korean history after posting the video and yes it's seriously horrible. I cried reading about what actually happened there.

They also justified the sanctions and military actions on DPRK because the country stole a movie director from Japan? That they also killed Kim Jong-nam in Malasya back in 2017. What is the reality of that? I can't find anything on this other than wikipedia links that they had posted on this. And after realizing just how much propaganda western media has, I am quite disillusioned on where to learn more. (I am so glad I found this place, seriously.)

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

On the podcast, is it by RedPylon? Blowback: Season 3? I did look more into Korean history after posting the video and yes it’s seriously horrible. I cried reading about what actually happened there.

I just checked and yeah, that should be the one I was thinking of. And yeah, it is a hard thing to learn about. 🫂 It's one of those things where, like... I don't know, it's hard to find the right words for it. Like it's important to learn about so we know better what's going on in the world and how things got to the point that they are, so we can contend with how it is now. But that doesn't make it hurt any less on its own. The world still needs liberation.

They also justified the sanctions and military actions on DPRK because the country stole a movie director from Japan? That they also killed Kim Jong-nam in Malasya back in 2017. What is the reality of that? I can’t find anything on this other than wikipedia links that they had posted on this. And after realizing just how much propaganda western media has, I am quite disillusioned on where to learn more. (I am so glad I found this place, seriously.)

I'm not informed on this specific incident myself, but hopefully someone else will know something and chime in. I just know the west has made up some really absurd claims about the DPRK over the years. Like saying they're killing somebody for listening to kpop or stuff like that.