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[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Other than Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, what’s the solution to this problem?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Letting the post office become a bank. Which is an idea that’s been floated for like a century.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago

The post office in our country became a bank, and then the bank-and-post-office was privatized and bought up and now the mail sucks and the former postal bank is investing in the Palestinian genocide (real estate on Palestinian land, weapons research with field tests on Palestinians, etc.).

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would this work exactly? The post office would send cash around the same way they send letters around, or would they just handle direct bank transfers?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

I see. Thanks for the info

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago

Make it happen and one day later they're arguing who to provide their services too and who not.

[–] SinTan1729@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

We have it in India. I usually prefer them to most banks for savings accounts, or FDs. Their rates are usually much better.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is "the post office" for Europe?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

AFAIK a lot of European countries have an equivalent of the USPS. Though in doing a quick search for this post I learned that Germany doesn’t have a state owned mail service anymore which is weird. Maybe it’s time for the EU to take on that role?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Our scumbag neoliberals privatized Deutsche Post in the 90s, but Deutsche Post AG is still legally obligated to provide basic mail service.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Dutchy here; our national post office has been privatised decades ago (it currently goes by the name of PostNL). I believe most (western) eu countries don't have a national postal service anymore, like there isn't a national phone, tv or internet provider anymore.

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago

Same here in Sweden. Our right wing governments have destroyed everything in the last 30 years.

[–] cageythree@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

I learned that Germany doesn’t have a state owned mail service anymore

It's so dumb. We privatized all kinds of important infrastructure, then it became enshittified for revenue maximization and now it's broken, shitty and expensive.

Some postal service, trains, telecommunication service, banks, airports & airlines etc have been government owned a few decades ago and worked so so much better.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, most European countries don't have a government postal service. Either it's always been private or it was privatized decades ago. The USPS is fairly uncommon model.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wellllll, let's make banks fulfil post office duties instead! :)

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

GNU Taler, which is an anonymous (for the sender, not receiver) digital cash.

If the FSFE were to use a bank utilizing that system, the bank would not be able to request the sender's information from them, as any person sending the donation is completely anonymous by design.

You can learn more about it over at !money@slrpnk.net

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the FSFE were to use gnu taller, the taler bank would've probably requested the same information through some other nonstandard channel sooner or later. The traditional electronic money has become like show breed dogs. They are no good without the papers. Especially in europe.

We need to eliminate the banks and the payment gateways from the paymemt process.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If a bank or preferably credit union adopts GNU Taler, they can't realistically expect the receiver of the tokens to know who sent the tokens due go their anonymous nature. A receiver could put an info form before the GNU Taler part, but the sender could just put john doe info there.

It is truly like cash. I know in the US many banks would get weirded out if you try to deposit a large amount if cash and may report it to the IRS, but as long as its reflected in your taxes, then it should be okay.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only trouble is, that's exactly why they would refuse to adopt GNU Taler.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Some banks in Europe are already adopting it, and credit unions would be much more likely to as well.

[–] kaki@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The non-profits I've donated to usually allow bank transfers and sending cash or checks by mail.