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Hi friends. Is it fucked up to flirt with someone with no intention of taking it further? I'm in a long-term monogamous relationship. Sometimes I crave a little validation from strangers. I'm not going to cheat on my partner, but I do have a need to feel desirable to others. I don't feel like a bit of flirting is a betrayal of my relationship, but I'm less confident about how other people feel. Like, I don't want to waste someone else's time, but I guess maybe I am leading people on a bit if I chat with them without mentioning my partner.

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[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Personally as a third party this would not bother me really. I could see myself being a little disappointed if I wanted to take things further, but to me someone casually flirting with me has never implied to me that there’s necessarily anything more there. I’m pretty surprised at how negatively some of the other people here are reacting, honestly.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm starting to think flirting means something more explicit to the majority here than it does to me.

Trying to figure out if it was implied that the person being flirted with gets given a phone number or contact information?

Are we assuming OP is going to be laying it on thick then just go "ah, just kidding, thanks for the validation" or what?

[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah I don't know what others are imagining here, I have to think they're seeing flirting as something more committal than me, but I don't know if that's us talking about different things or others being entitled. Like to me it just feels good to be flirted with. it gives me a boost in confidence, and I like returning that feeling. I think mutual flirting with someone opens up an appropriate avenue for asking to take things further without worrying about coming across as creepy, but expecting things to go further is totally different. Frankly, if I was on the fence about whether to date someone and they reacted angrily to me flirting with no intent to go further, that would be a huge red flag and tell me I made the right choice avoiding going further with them.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Frankly, if I was on the fence about whether to date someone and they reacted angrily to me flirting with no intent to go further, that would be a huge red flag and tell me I made the right choice avoiding going further with them.

And if I found out that someone was "flirting" with me while deliberately avoiding mentioning that they have an SO so that I would provide them with "validation" over the course of a conversation, it'd be at least a mild consolation to know that the person in question was not worth being involved with.

[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's fine, that's your preference. The thing I said that you quoted wasn't super applicable to this situation anyways, since the OP knows they don't want to pursue any sort of relationship, whereas I was commenting from a perspective of uncertainty, so maybe I shouldn't have even included that part. Personally I wouldn't hide that I have an SO if I were in the OP's shoes, but I still don't think that's really the other parties business if OP is never intending to be romantic/sexual with their flirting partner anyways. To me it feels reminiscent of cis people getting mad if I don't disclose that I'm trans to someone I'm flirting with because they may not be into me if they knew. But like if we aren't actually committing to anything, then why is it their business? It's not quite the same because there is an actual danger to disclosing transness to someone you don't know, whereas disclosing that you have a partner likely won't put you in danger, but I think the general idea that it isn't actually the other person's business unless you are going to have a romantic/sexual relationship with them is the same.

Why put flirting and validation in scare quotes? Mutual flirting goes both ways after all, both participants are validated. I don't think that validation or the words expressed become less real just because there is no intent to follow up on them.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's fine, that's your preference.

Maybe it's worth considering then that, if we're talking about a proposed habitual behavior toward strangers, what matters is not just if anyone is fine with it but what the odds are that over several goes, it will be hurtful to some people?

To me it feels reminiscent of cis people getting mad if I don't disclose that I'm trans to someone I'm flirting with because they may not be into me if they knew. But like if we aren't actually committing to anything, then why is it their business? It's not quite the same because there is an actual danger to disclosing transness to someone you don't know, whereas disclosing that you have a partner likely won't put you in danger, but I think the general idea that it isn't actually the other person's business unless you are going to have a romantic/sexual relationship with them is the same.

I think the part about you potentially being put in danger is a pretty important distinction! In fact, I think it's pretty difficult to abstract away from that fact. Let me know if another analogy occurs to you.

Why put flirting and validation in scare quotes?

For the sake of brevity, disgust at the cutesy way they describe this behavior, etc. Let me know if you think further explanation is important.

Mutual flirting goes both ways after all, both participants are validated. I don't think that validation or the words expressed become less real just because there is no intent to follow up on them.

I'm sure you have already come to the conclusion that our perspectives are wildly different and quite difficult to reconcile owing at least in part to our different experiences (statistically, you've been hit on more in a ~2 year period than I have in my whole life, based on your other comment), but I hope that you can understand why someone deliberately misleading me to milk some compliments out of me for the sake of their "need"* for validation while not having the slightest possibility of any genuine interest in me at any point might not actually be a super validating experience for me. Someone condescending to telling me what they think I want to hear so that I express interest in them and they feel good about themselves does not appeal to me.

*in this case I meant it as the more straightforward "what they are calling it is absolutely not what it really is" marker, if you're wondering.

[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 1 points 1 minute ago

Maybe it's worth considering then that, if we're talking about a proposed habitual behavior toward strangers, what matters is not just if anyone is fine with it but what the odds are that over several goes, it will be hurtful to some people?

Well that's why I commented in the first place, because I saw that there were many people reacting negatively to what the OP is doing, and I personally would not, but once the general consensus starts to form on a post like this it becomes difficult to voice a dissenting opinion. I feel that it's worthwhile then for me to share my feelings so if others feel the same as me they can either upvote my comment or feel more comfortable adding their own, so the OP has a fuller range of opinions to work with. I think regardless, if this many people are bothered by it then the OP should seriously consider whether continuing to do what they are doing is the right choice.

I think the part about you potentially being put in danger is a pretty important distinction! In fact, I think it's pretty difficult to abstract away from that fact. Let me know if another analogy occurs to you.

You could use kinks or sexual trauma as other analogies I suppose. Like, if I want/need to have sex in a specific way that may not be comfortable for the other party, obviously I should disclose that before we've committed to actually having sex. But if we aren't going to have sex, then I think it's entirely appropriate not to disclose that, because it isn't relevant to the flirting itself. Or for a romantic example, if I expect certain things out of a relationship, like that we are in that relationship long-term or that we go on a certain number of dates a week or something, that's not something that is necessary to disclose until it's actually relevant, and if there is no intention of ever pursuing a romantic relationship, then I think never bringing it up isn't wrong.

I'm sure you have already come to the conclusion that our perspectives are wildly different and quite difficult to reconcile owing at least in part to our different experiences (statistically, you've been hit on more in a ~2 year period than I have in my whole life, based on your other comment), but I hope that you can understand why someone deliberately misleading me to milk some compliments out of me for the sake of their "need"* for validation while not having the slightest possibility of any genuine interest in me at any point might not actually be a super validating experience for me. Someone condescending to telling me what they think I want to hear so that I express interest in them and they feel good about themselves does not appeal to me.

Well, I did mention that people started flirting with me a lot more after transitioning. I'm familiar with the feeling of basically never being flirted with and going many years without a romantic relationship. And sorry, but I don't think the OP's behavior would have bothered me then either.

But really more what I'm struggling to understand is why people here are seeing flirting without a desire to take that further as not genuine interest. You seem to be assuming that if they flirt with you because they want to be flirted with in return, that they don't mean what they are saying, but I don't think that is necessarily true. Whether or not I'm intending to pursue a relationship with someone, I would not flirt with them if I didn't mean it. When you say they do not have the slightest possibility of any genuine interest in you, that they are deceiving you, that they are telling you what you want to hear to milk compliments out of you and so you express interest in them, it reveals that:

  1. You don't think it's possible for someone to mean what they say when they flirt if they don't follow through with their flirting, which isn't true.

  2. That flirting and being flirted with because it feels good is not a sufficient reason to flirt, and that they must commit beyond that. You have an expectation that if you and someone else are flirting that they will necessarily want to date you and/or have sex with you, or even that they are obligated to. Consider how obviously wrong this line of thinking would be if you remove the sexual aspect from this. If you were to get mad at someone for joking with you at the bus stop but then revealing they do not want to be your friend, that would obviously be ridiculous.


I'm not saying you aren't allowed to have hurt feelings if someone did what the OP does to you. But I think this way of thinking about flirting is unhealthy, and I don't think it's the OP's responsibility to manage that for others. If they want to stop anyways because of it, that's understandable, but it isn't enough to convince me that what they are doing is actually wrong.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

do you get people trying to flirt with you a lot? I have had people express interest in me maybe three times in my entire life.

[–] Demifriend@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nah I wouldn't say a lot, but it's not super rare for it to happen. At one point it was maybe once every 4-6 months or so[^1]? But these days I don't go out much because of the pandemic, so it doesn't happen as often. It happens a lot more now than it did before I started transitioning, I think partly because I became a lot more friendly and comfortable with complimenting people once I felt more like myself. I'm also non-monogamous, pretty openly sex-positive, and live in an area with a lot of other queer people, so I'm sure that contributes plenty as well.

[^1]: Definitely more frequently if you include online, but if someone is flirting with me online it's probably in an online space that is explicitly sexual so I wouldn't count that for this conversation.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

that sounds like a lot to me, but i haven't spoken to anyone outside of a workplace in years

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, I'm thinking what we consider flirting may be equivalent to a friendly chat to some.

I haven't had to worry about it in a long time so shrug-outta-hecks