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It's two-fold.
The overton window has shifted so far that we're getting warmongering from the democrats.
'Half' of the congressional left are sleeper agents for the right.
The DNC keeps pushing right and refuses to do anything to keep us from sliding into authoritarianism. Appeasing the right, Siding with Israel.
But not voting left is the same as voting right, that IS how the right wins.
And voting left is just giving them a blank check to keep sliding that window further right.
Neither party is going to let a third party in.
Appeasing the left is making them worse.
The rub, people think if they keep not-voting or voting independent, the DNC will give in and start moving stuff left. They won't. They don't truly want to win.
It's like fucking Brewsters millions out here, but "None of the Above" won't fucking help either.
I think, mostly, we can agree that the agenda of the "left" is the lesser of two evils, but the evils are getting so bad that we need desperately to do something to move the window back left a little.
I keep voting indepedent not to move the democrats left but to instead ensure there is still someone standing on the left when the Democrat and Republican parties eventually merge.
The two big third parties, the Green Party and the Libertarian party, both somehow manage to be worse than both GOP and the DNC. You literally have to do the absolute bare minimum to be better, but they can't even do that.
I feel like this is the exact proto-fascist thought virus that makes Americans American. Political parties are not supposed to permit other political parties to hold power,, even if that's not how you intended to communicate the inability of a third parties to win,, it's still a Freudian slip.
If not voting for one political party is an implicit vote for the "opposite" party then there is no party, there is no choice. It's like making the choice to eat or not, there's no choice if you don't eat you die. If you don't vote Democrat you vote Republican, therefore there is no choice (Unless you think it's possible to choose death which I don't think is possible if I want to be consistent with my values).
Even though we know that democracy is not mathematically possible we do know that certain democracies are more democratic than other democracies.
We need preferential voting if we want to improve the situation but if our goal is to go maximum anarco-democracy then just look to that one episode of the Orville where they encountered a people practicing absolute democracy, good show and poignant episode, BAD OUTCOME.
Imo someone needs to be in charge and that someone has to be more responsible than me and not me, and if that's how I lay out my preferences on my ballot then I will have a better government.
You're arguing with people who have clearly never read a lick of political theory to have an understanding of these systemic forces and institutions.
NOTHING I said there was false or loaded.
False. Citation needed
A Freudian slip: is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that occurs due to the interference of an unconscious subdued wish or internal train of thought. Nothing I said satisfies that definition.
The democrats and republicans fund and push around the Green and Libretarian efforts to use them a vote division and shielding until they get manage to get safely where they need to be. Third parties are systematically oppressed by the current parties in power. Our laws and election procedures HAVE FACILITIES for independents to make it in, but they are blocked through finance, primaries and other methods
That's a remarkably naive statement. Your whole line of argument is incredibly naive. If 500 people usually vote 250:250 and all of a sudden it's 200:250, the other side won. How can you not understand that?
WTH? I'm done with you, that's insane.
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