neurodiverse
What is Neurodivergence?
It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc
“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”
So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned
Rules
1.) ableist language=post or comment will probably get removed (enforced case by case, some comments will be removed and restored due to complex situations). repeated use of ableist language=banned from comm and possibly site depending on severity. properly tagged posts with CW can use them for the purposes of discussing them
2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence
2.5) right to disengage is rigidly enforced. violations will get you purged from the comm. see rule 3 for explanation on appeals
3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.
3.5) everyone has their own lived experiences, and to invalidate them is to post cringe. comments will be removed on a case by case basis depending on determined level of awareness and faith
4.) Interest Policing will not be tolerated in any form. Support your comrades in their joy!
Further rules to be added/ rules to be changed based on community input
RULES NOTE: For this community more than most we understand that the clarity and understandability of these rules is very important for allowing folks to feel comfortable, to that end please don't be afraid to be outspoken about amendments and addendums to these rules, as well as any we may have missed
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This is pretty close to
territory I think
Does this extend to allistic ND people like, say, ADHD? I do not claim to have the same struggles as someone with ASD. I find that conversations with NT people are often guarded at first because there are a great number of people who are trying to get one over on everyone they meet. The 'average' NT uses a lot of these social cues to subconsciously evaluate whether they're being tricked. I find my ND comrades are more willing to share personal information and have deep conversations before they even get to know me. This sometimes makes me worry that these same comrades may be easily scammed or otherwise manipulated by bad actors.
Sometimes I think that all non-ADHD people really enjoy working and all they want to do is make routines and plan stuff out and clean up and give me shit for not constantly being productive. This is not the case, it's just where most of my negative interactions come from. I, again, don't know your struggles but to claim that people without ASD are "literally natural born liars. Lying is part of their nature" is really concerning.
"NTs and by NTs I actually mean people who don't have autism are only capable of lying unlike us honest autists" is certainly a take.
There's nothing about autism that would prevent someone with autism from lying by omission or lying through self-deception. Just because autism prevents someone from convincingly lying that you don't fat in that dress doesn't mean that people with autism are incapable of much more serious lies.
I agree with you comrade but your judgement and theirs is completely different.
You consciously identify that they're not worth interacting with and decide not to. They unconsciously decide to hate you and then make up reasons for why they feel this way. Your thoughts follow some logical process, theirs is pure cognitive dissonance.
I doubt I'm any more or less logical than them, I simply found my made up reasons. That said, I'm going to allow myself a little prejudice as a treat. Just a little indulgence for the luxury of safety.
So many NT people make a game out of "let's see how overtly I can bully this person without them realizing what I'm doing" and I'm like... why? What's the appeal?
Where does this happen? The only examples of this I can think of are when you give a trainee/apprentice wrong information with the intent of having them ask someone a very silly question for fun. Not saying it's not bullying in that scenario but may I ask where else you've experienced it?
Let me put it this way: when I was in school, a lot of the other kids picked up on the fact that I was awful at detecting sarcasm and subtext and used that to subtly insult me to my face. I only fully realized what was happening in hindsight, but I often had a nagging suspicion that there was a joke that everybody was in on except me.
Or, hell. Just look at the shit that happened to Chris Chan. I've read a frankly embarrassing amount about her, and her undercover stalkers (calling them "trolls" is underselling what they actually did) loved to slip in lots of little clues that they were fucking with her and delight when she failed to pick up on them.
Okay, you made it seem like it was ubiquitous.
Your experience in school is horrible. I don't think using kids, who've not fully had their brains develop, as an example of what the average person is like is fair.
Similarly, using the actions of 4chan and kiwifarms and other harassment sites as a way to suggest this behavior is due to being neurotypical is a poor choice
I have met more ASD people than I can count who have lived some version of this same story.
If your point was originally about children I apologize. I was under the impression you were saying that a large number of NT people find it fun to torment people with ASD as adults. Bullying happens at all ages and horrible people are everywhere but I don't think it's because they lack ASD.
i don't think you need to scarequotes typical, that's a statistical designation that replaces "normal" because less common neurologies are still normal.