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[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Social security would be a ponzi scheme if it wasn't done by the government. System only works because new younger people are "convinced" to put in money to pay the old in hopes that new younger people will pay them in the future.

The social security liability is currently 23 trillion. If no new people started paying in and everyone wanted to cash out, they couldn't get a dime.

We are 33 trillion dollars in debt. 33 trillion.

If we as a country ever tried to cut spending and save money to pay that down, our economy would collapse so fast.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Social security was designed to be that way, it's not a secret or anything. It's how the system was set up and it's how it is supposed to work. Today's workers fund today's retirees.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Except it was built with the assumption that everyone would continue to have 2.5 kids, and skilled immigrants would keep making the US home, and the economy would keep growing and growing forever, and retirees would die off a couple of years after they retired.

All the base assumptions on which the system were built were shaky. People are having fewer kids, so there's less money coming in. Retirees are living longer so they need more benefits. People who paid hundreds of thousands into the system during their lifetimes are requiring millions in benefits at the end of their lives. But, people are having fewer kids and so the bottom of the pyramid is shrinking.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

More immigration would help, but we're just too damn racist

[-] sumofchemicals@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The government wants to carry a debt, because everyone who is owed money by the government is incentivezed to support it.

[-] linux2647 2 points 1 year ago

I thought paying into it wasn’t optional??

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