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California orders bottled water firm to stop drawing from natural springs
(www.theguardian.com)
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there is a genuine need, and it has its place, but that place is not being mass-produced and sold for ridiculous profits at the expense of the environment.
I mean, it's a microcosm but I remember a friend in uni refusing to drink tap or Brita water. He'd just keep cases and cases of water by his mini fridge and just plow threw them.
I got upset with my sister in law because she'll buy bottled water when I had a water filter in our fridge. Hell, you can boil it if you're really uncertain. She said there was stuff about chemicals and I said the plastic for the water probably isn't any better for you.
But taking a shower in chemicals are okay? The mental gymnastics of some people.
Tap water is also more regulated than bottled water too.
I'm not defending bottled water, but in regards to the shower argument, there's a reason things are rated for topical use vs food grade
the better argument is someone drinking bottled water while using tap water to wash their foods
Tap water is regulated by the EPA, and bottled water is regulated by thr FDA (in the states). Both have to make it drinkable. EPA forces types of contaminents, intended use (residential water is designed to be drinkable), and have all water quality reports public after treating said water. EPA however doesnt regulate the pipes, so the flynt michigan sotuation came out due to that.
Bottled water tests water at source and before product. Bottled water must label the source where the water came from, which includes tap...
Unless the person drinking only bottled water actively reads the label to know what the source water is, its a very popr argument to avoid tap when the attempt to avoid it is half baked.
I think you misunderstood what I said, I'm agreeing with you on the mental gymnastics, but the argument you put out wasn't exactly the best when given to the PoV of the gymnast; they're avoiding ingesting tap water in favor of bottled, but they ingest it regardless, unless they wash everything with bottled water like a very crazy person
and didn't expect to respond again about this crazy hypothetical person that lives rent free in both our minds, but I'm going to evict that person right now for my own sanity
Marketing is a hell of a drug I guess
Tricked people into buying water they can get for near free from the tap
Possibly the biggest grift in history
Think of how many bottles of water you can get for $10. Anything from event prices to Costco prices, doesn’t matter.
For $10 I get about a thousand gallons of tap water. I have a back yard pond, so I think in terms of bulk quantity cost of tap water, lol. Technically the sewer charge is about another $10 for that same amount of water.
The water is pretty good, and tastes just about perfect to me once it’s run through the cheap filter in our refrigerator.
IMO the worst part of bottled water is the plastic, plus the thought of shipping literal water around the country/world.
We could use something other than plastic. We should be banning the use of single-use plastics everywhere.
I am sure emergency workers would rather not have to haul around water in glass containers after a disaster. If you have another material that is cheap, can be injected molded, bends instead of breaking, only impacts humans under mass exposure, and lightweight plesse let people know.
Aluminum is lighter than glass. Cardboard can be treated so that it holds fluid as well (and can still be made recyclable)
Regardless, plastic requires fossil fuels to make. It needs to go.
I have aluminum cups that can be (hand) washed/reused/recycled. Most plastic cannot be recycled
The tech is there, companies just need to be incentivized to use it.
I don't know how the chemistry works, but we had aluminum cups and they were somehow taking the calcium in the water and concentrating it into little deposits on the bottom of the cup which were hard to get off. I switched back to glass.
Alright so go and do it. I have done some plastic extruder machine control systems. Let me know when you need my help. It is pretty crazy to me that there is this really simple solution that no one on earth is trying and there is a shitton of money to be made but it is possible.
Are you missing the point that plastic is used because it is cheaper, not because it is better for humanity and nature?
It's like saying "so go ahead and fix the climate, if fixing the climate is so good for us". What exactly do you think the problem is?
Bronze, but it aint cheap.
Thermoses are commonly used, and they even have a vacuum inside!
If you don't care about keeping the internal temperature, there's a lot of options for good reusable water containers. Why should we even use disposable containers if we can avoid it?
I have a glass water bottle I use daily. I am talking about a specific use case.
silicon?
It is brittle right?