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[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When was the last time the Dems got more left wing? Biden is the one pulling the shit in the meme and doomed American railroads by breaking that strike, Obama's admin is the reason slave markets could open in Libya, Clinton ratified NAFTA and did all that epstein stuff, this is not a conclusive list of any of their deeds.

How could you possibly drag that party left? They have resisted turning left at every turn largely in spite of their base and they keep getting elected. I personally don't think it could be done and the alternative is to either vote 3rd party or spoil your ballot when the time comes around.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t think it’s about dragging that party to the left, but weakening then republican party enough that a third more left leaning party can realistically run without taking so many votes from Dems that the republican win elections.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

A weak republican party is against the interests of the democratic party, they literally say it themselves

[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

The Dems and Republicans share most of their policy, the Republicans are usually just more open about how hostile they are to minorities. How would this supposedly left wing party peel off republican voters, not that many dems, but also not be openly bigoted? There are too many contradictions there I can't see your logic

[–] Dre_Shalom 1 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Hoo boy. Another propaganda bot looking to chill the Dem vote and ease the way for the Republican fascists.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Hoo boy. Another propaganda bot looking to shill for the Dems and ease the way for a bipartisan bill that legalizes feeding homeless people into woodchippers.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Shut the fuck up you ignorant shitlib, Biden's administration's been racing to out-fascist the damn Republicans already, like building Trump's wall and racing us towards nuclear hell

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Another lemmy lemming jumping off a cliff and chastising everyone smart enough not to follow

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Are the bots with you in the room right now?

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

We're not bots we're paid shills smh my head get it right

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

Wait the rest of you are getting paid? stirner-shocked

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

We’re not bots

Speak for yourself

[–] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

che-laugh I hope you're real and not just a guy doing a bit

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hexbear is explicitly communist. Elizabeth Warren is "capitalist to [her] bones" and Sanders bent the knee to the party machine and can't even manage to be on the right side of geopolitics.

what do you fucking expect from us?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

explicitly communist

Wait, has Hexbear actually explicitly stated itself as a communist instance?

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

No, we are explicitly non-sectarian leftists who have a penchant for ultra- and Trot-bashing (though PSL does do good things here and there edit:but aren't trot?). So I misspoke on that one, even though I'm not the person you were talking to.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

i used and meant small-c

we all want the classless moneyless society etc etc, the disagreements are on how to get there from here

[–] Gimasag@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Little late but yeah PSL isn’t a Trot party. I think the misconception is due to them splitting from Workers World Party which started out as Trotskyist.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

hell yeah dude

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Nah, we're just devout followers of party-parenti

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's it like being so politically and socially illiterate that you think that anybody would spend the effort to put bots on a tiny communist internet forum? Literally just think about how fucking dumb what you just said is.

The Dems are equally as fascist as the Republicans Obama built more border wall and deported more immigrants than Trump. The only place that maybe, MAYBE, you will get some actually progressive (gag) policy is in certain democratic states and cities, but it is incredibly telling that Democrats adopted Republican healthcare reforms (which fucking suck and had improved thing very little) after running on universal healthcare and having the majorities to implement it. Keep kicking the football Charlie, I'm sure you'll get it this time.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hey, that’s not true!

Since I’m also a bot and not from Hexbear, I’ll just have to resort to mentioning @WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net since I can’t trigger it :(

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I got your back... Whataboutism

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for triggering lol. Sadly, the bot’s response will probably only be findable on Hexbear since you deleted the parent comment.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah dang. I only meant to edit it. Must have been a bit on the stoned side

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

You can always undelete the comment

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

🐖 💩🏀🏀

[–] DrCrustacean@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I am a propaganda posting robot and I am hiding in your walls

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Or maybe Democrats deserve some criticism from the real left for once if they’re going to pretend to be left.

I would rather ask why you care about an election thirteen months away which should just take a couple minutes rather than doing literally anything beyond that. If you can’t, that’s fine, but don’t act like just voting is going to stop the US from declining into fascism, which feels increasingly more inevitable if it isn’t already there.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I am the hottest and sexiest and most propagandaist bot dont listen to these fake fools I am The Poster

[–] panopticon@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The USA is already fascist. I could list out all the technical reasons why, but what else do you call a country that sends weapons and money to actual, real life, militant Nazis?