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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 81 points 10 months ago

Per Al-Jazeera:

Dutch footballer Anwar El-Ghazi has been suspended by his German club, Mainz 05, for a pro-Palestinian post that the Bundesliga deemed “unacceptable by the club”, saying it did not “align with the values of the club”.

El-Ghazi, who is of Moroccan origin and has represented the Netherlands twice, only signed for Mainz 05 at the end of September, and has previously played for Dutch giants PSV Eindhoven and Ajax, as well as Premier League clubs Aston Villa and Everton.

The footballer had posted a message that ended with “Palestine will be free”.

Palestinians in Germany, as well as their supporters, have complained of a clampdown on pro-Palestinian expression in the country, and pro-Palestinian protests have not been allowed to take place.

Death to America, of course; the US is biggest enabler of the genocidal Israeli state. But jfc Germans and French really are on another level when it comes to trying to suppress even the most generic forms of support for Palestine.

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It doesn't align with our values.

Our values: Genocide is good

What else can you expect from the enlightened nation of Germany, less than 100 years ago they killed MILLIONS.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Krauts love genocide

[-] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In france, Danièle Obono, a congresswoman from Melenchon's party, recently tweeted that Hamas was a "resistance movement".

This resulted in a probe for terrorism apologia being opened against her.

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Germans tripping over themselves in a rush to support war crimes as to not be called antisemitic

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Its cool. The Bundesliga has some of the biggest Slava Ukrania bs going on for a while, and I'm pretty sure some clubs still have flags in their stadiums or peace signs on the center circle. I get it though. Ukraine has some guys that are huge fans of Germany. Just don't ask what era they love in particular. Germans don't like talking about those values.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

"Have complained" have they? Have they? Have they complained that the government made opposition to genocide a crime?

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

"Palestine will not be free. >:(" - German football club

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

He ended with the the well known (terrorist) slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free".

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