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Why is a bread and soup restaurant selling energy drinks so caffeinated it will kill you if you drink it?
The same reason a sandwich restaurant uses only bread that is legally classified as cake
For those not in the know... it's Subway.
To be fair, they also state in the same article that McDonald's buns have the same amount of sugar. I would even suspect that every burger maker does burgers with high sugar ~~bread~~ cakes.
But this is just gold:
Well, if you say so, I have nothing else to do but believe
It's not so caffeinated, it's about as much caffeine per ounce as coffee
Yeah, but nobody's drinking 3 30 oz coffees in one sitting. Nor is coffee really marketed as a health drink.
Found this as well:
If any sugar soaked beverage is allowed to be marketed as a health drink, that's a problem that applies to the entire industry.
And drinking 90oz is the fault of the consumer, remember how much blowback there was when New York banned selling drinks above a certain volume? The people want to be able to do drink ungodly amounts of soft drink, apparently.
Only thing I really blame Panera for is not clearly labeling how much caffeine is in a cup, which I also don't really blame them for because the last time I went to Starbucks or McDonald's I couldn't find out which latte had the most caffeine, so that's standard behavior I guess.
Push for more required disclosure if you'd like, I'd probably agree, but Panera was not out of line IMO.
If it is an industry problem, then this sort of event is usually what snowballs into actual change.
The tip of this case, I believe, isn't just the caffeine content, but the fact that it:
While the company isn't required to cater to individuals with very specific tolerances of the simulant, they likely had data available to them that suggests that this outcome was always a possibility, yet they supposedly ran the product until people died.
To be fair, its absurdly stupid to think banning the sale of large drinks does anything positive for anyone. I never get larges of anything, but I'll fight stupid laws like that any time.
ehh, I think it makes sense in that it eliminates perverse incentives like "give us 50 cents more and you can double your already extra large soda," but as implemented it was certainly just a lazy band-aid solution
1200 mgs of caffeine can cause seizures in even healthy adults btw.
To be fair nobody should be drinking 3 30oz lemonades in one sitting either
You obviously haven't ever worked in IT.
Also, a cup of coffee is about 4x smaller than a 30oz drink.
Dunkin serves their large iced coffees in 30oz cups. I also will frequently drink a whole pot of coffee throughout the day. 390mg of caffeine is really not that significant for the average person.
You may have a caffeine problem. Like, that's objectively a LOT of caffeine, my friend.
A pot is seen as having between 643 to 857 mg of caffeine in it. You're ostensibly drinking the equivalent of 11-14 shots of espresso daily. That's... That's a lot.
Idk I'm not dependent on it. I don't drink coffee every day but sometimes I'll drink a lot. It doesn't really effect me much when I drink it and I can easily skip coffee for days at a time so it's hard to call it a problem.
Regardless, the FDA says that 400mg of caffeine per day is safe for healthy adults so the 390mg lemonade is fine.
It's not a dangerous drink for the majority of the population. Dude had known medical issues that caffeine can cause issues with, and drank an unreasonable amount of it.
It has more caffeine (390 mg) than a Monster Energy Drink (160 mg) and a Red Bull (77.4 mg) combined. It has twice the Canadian legal limit for caffeine in an energy drink.
It's not even advertised as an energy drink, and it has 40% more caffeine than monster and red bull combined. I know you Yanks like to live on the edge and YOLO and whatnot, but that's a dangerous drink.
It is clearly advertised. Quit your lying.
You're comparing the caffeine content of a 30oz drink to a 16 oz and 12 oz respectively. Red bull is 111. Monster is 86. I had gotten these charged lemonades regularly before these lawsuits. Know what was on the machine when you went to get it? The exact caffeine content. The entire time. Always. It was pretty clearly marketed as having about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee if you drank a cup of coffee worth. If these specifically need to be marketed as energy drinks, then so does coffee. A standard cup of coffee has 100-150 mg of caffeine.
The first time I had a full 30 oz serving of the mango one I felt like I was vibrating. I decided from that point on to only get half and fill the rest with unsweetened tea. There absolutely should be clearly marked caffeine content in things. And we live in a litigious society. I'm pissed because now I have to ask one of the employees to get these for me instead of me just being able to serve myself....like I can their coffee.
Because caffeine is addictive, and the executives at Panera are addicted to profits.
This drink has 390 milligrams of caffeine in it... That's equivalent to over SIX goddamn shots of espresso. That's not a mistake... It's just insane.
The amount of caffeine per ounce is on par with coffee. Hardly classify that as an 'energy drink'. Or are you saying they can't sell coffee either? You can by the same amount of caffeine per drink (30oz), from Starbucks. Why didn't you mention Starbucks? Caffeine from one place is the same as another.
because if it's a normal drink but you feel good and energized then there must be some magic in that drink that would make me want to buy more of it. lacking awareness one would likely just keep drinking the infinite refills.
idiots don't consider magic not being real and drugs being the only thing that makes you feel good. in this case shittons of atp clones aka caffeine.