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More couples are choosing a ‘dual income, no kids’ lifestyle
(www.cnbc.com)
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Don't mind me. I'm the weirdo that legit loves being a parent.
I'm happy for you! We all take different paths in life and it's great you enjoy yours.
Me too, kids made my life so much better, but oof I hate when people push their lifestyle on others, child free and natalist proselytizers can both fuck off. We aren't going to run out of people, or get too many, you can see it adjusting even now. It seems so normal for people in a crowded world to want fewer kids, and slow birth rate is so much nicer than war or plague as a way to control population.
Ya... the only problem is WHO is having all the kids.
I think you should elaborate on it. Please tell us what group of people are having kids that you think should not be?
Generally, people that are less educated or with shitty values. It's not about genetics; it's about the perpetuation of bad culture. If I were to name some groups that typify this: religious fundies and under-educated rednecks.
It's hard to have this argument without coming across as advocating for eugenics, but I completely agree. The fact that increasing women's education is so strongly correlated with decreased population growth is not a coincidence.
https://wol.iza.org/articles/female-education-and-its-impact-on-fertility/long#:~:text=The%20correlation%20is%20strong%20and,children%20per%20woman%20to%20two.
The difference between a eugenicists and whatever the hell I am is that I think the solution is to educate more people, not to control their right to reproduce.
Right. There's also a huge difference between taking measures that affect birth rates and actively rounding people up and culling them. Eugenics has got to be the most equivocated term in the English language. Except maybe god.
It's a weird alternate reality. Do I love having kids? Absolutely! Would I love having none? Absolutely!
Seconded, can’t imagine life without my family.
Fellow weirdo here. I like the world where everyone who has kids is choosing to have them. Boils my blood to see neglect or abuse of the innocent.
I think I would love being a parent too but I can't come up with a single non-selfish reason I would reproduce in this day and age
Because life is and will continue to be pretty good for a lot of people. I definitely think it will be for my kid. Also, Idiocracy. If all the good, thoughtful people take your attitude then every human will be an idiot or asshole, which is an utterly hopeless future. I get that hopelessness. I felt more or less as you do for a while. But there a good, noble reasons to have a family. It's not so cut and dry.
I mean let's set aside that the world is ending, my wife and I cannot even afford to buy our own apartment, both with very good careers. Unless I inherit several million from my parents I just can't see myself providing a good life for a child here in Canada. They would be set up for failure...
You're totally right in that majority of breeders are idiots (obviously you are not one) and that's just another reason I don't want to bring a child into this. I would have to homeschool them.
Well, it sounds like you have a lot of reasons to not have children. I think that's maybe the great understated tragedy of the economic fuckscape we live in: that a lot of good people can't afford to properly have a family. There's still plenty of room for happiness though, and I wish you the best of it.
For sure, we have to do our best with the hand that has been dealt! Thanks for the words
Shocked you haven't been downvoted a ton. Lemmy really hates anyone who wants to have children.
I downvote broad generalizations
I downvote people who are surprised that they or others aren't downvoted more. Because who am I to deny them, really?
I'll try not to generalize broads then