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[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No but like, using "-punk" as a suffix denotes an aesthetic that is based on imagining a society built around a core aspect, generally an energy source. Like, steampunk is all cooper and big buttons, dieselpunk is all dark steel and plastics, and solarpunk is contemporary utopian urban design with a lot of green space

The relationship to the anarchist punk movement ~~is almost nonexistent~~ remote

If I'm not mistaken btw

Edit : it comes from "cyberpunk" which definitely has punk vibes

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 7 months ago

dieselpunk is all dark steel and plastics,

I had never heard of this and now all I can think is who the hell conceived of a world even more dependent on petrol. Why bother, just go outside and take pictures.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago

Dieselpunk is literally a fascist aesthetic derived primarily from the third reich. Like the primary examples of dieselpunk art are the more recent Wolfenstein games. It's literally just fascist tank worship.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

Like the primary examples of dieselpunk art are the more recent Wolfenstein games

I enjoyed the ones I've played so far, but have some real mixed feelings on the setting. In a vacuum there's nothing wrong with an alt-history world like that, but since it isnt in a vacuum, i hate how it buys into and therefore promotes the idea of Nazi scientific superiority and "superweapons" and over inflated sense of the wehrmachts power. It also completely erases the Soviet Union obviously. I don't remember but it probably puts forth human wave theory as why they lost

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

On the other hand, it's pretty fun to gun down nazis

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

The second game also has cool Communists and Black Panthers in it which made gamers big mad.

[-] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Grace is cool as hell and she got more hate than the actual nazis or the abusive father figure. Stay mad anti-cracker-aktion gamers

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

Actually saw some real freeze-gamer brained people saying "yeah B.J.'s father is terrible, but it turned B.J. into the ultimate Nazi killer so that's good." The gamers have never been alright but damn

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Oh hell yeah it is! I just played The Old Blood so this minor gripe was fresh on my mind.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

If I recall correctly, the soviet government surrendered after getting nuked

It's on a newspaper snippet in the HQ in the first game

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Oh cool, that's a way better way to write that happening. Glad to be wrong on that. It's been a while since I played The New Order

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wehraboos. Nearly all of dieselpunk works i seen is glorification of either straight up nazism, or the american roots of nazism or the postapo evolution of nazism.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

There's also whalepunk, which is based on Victorian pre-petrol aesthetics. The Dishonored games, for instance.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

Most of those are just derivatives of "cyberpunk", which is very much connected to the anarchist association of punk because it's about the cyber-lumpenproletariat and such

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago

Oh yes of course, that's the piece I was missing thanks for pointing it out

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