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submitted 3 months ago by ozoned@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

VideoLAN @videolan App Stores were a mistake. Currently, we cannot update VLC on Windows Store, and we cannot update VLC on Android Play Store, without reducing security or dropping a lot of users... For now, iOS App Store still allows us to ship for iOS9, but until when?

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[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 51 points 3 months ago

They've not updated it there either though. It seems to be less of a case of can't update Android and more of a case of won't update Android

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What exactly is the issue preventing them from updating the Android version?

Also, if that's the case, it sounds like "App stores were a mistake" is a bit misleading, since the particular app store isnt the problem.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 59 points 3 months ago

Basically, modern app stores have changed how they work and now require the signing keys, VLC feel this is a bad thing and refuse to update. Banks are okay with it, but VLC feel more strongly than banks.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 92 points 3 months ago

Banks are okay with it, but VLC feel more strongly than banks.

I mean banks are known for horrible security practices all around so that makes perfect sense.

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 24 points 3 months ago

My bank restricts the length of my password to...16 characters, I think.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Mine only uses a 4-to-6 digit pin as a password, and sms for 2fa

[-] Kindness@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Darren Kitchen from Hak5 has an amusing story about a bank teller who assured him email was entirely fine to send sPII through. "No sir, you just need to send it to us, and once we have your information then it'll be secure." No encryption. So, yes.

Also look into the Equifax security breach. Un-patched software for months.

It makes almost no sense to have a password length limit. 1_000_000, that's One Million, characters is equal to 1MiB. That's twice the length of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy and much less than most modern webpages. After hashing, which is how passwords should be stored, text length is irrelevant. All hashed inputs come out the exact same length. 65 characters for SHA256.

Very much known for their horrible security practices, yes. Absolutely.

[-] gartheom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Setting a max password length is sometimes done to prevent ddos attacks. Without it, attackers could just spam 1MB passwords constantly and force the login server to just spend all its cpu time hashing garbage.

That being said, a password limit of under 20 characters probably just means they are just storing passwords in plaintext.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

In Brazil, the govt owned lottery site, created around 2015, only accepts passwords with 6 numeric digits. Your password has to be a number between 000000 and 999999. Only somewhat recently (6 months ago or so) they've added a 2FA through an email link.

Oh, said lottery is run by the biggest govt owned bank. Chances of people reusing their bank password there are very fucking high.

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Absolutely. They are entrenched in their regulations so much that it takes forever to change things.

Years ago, I had an account at an american big4 bank with an 8 character password and was going through and making all my passwords unique. I was changing everything to random strings of 20-30 characters (this isnt the best practice, btw, but still better than 8chars), so when I get to this bank account it capped me at 15chars. I couldnt believe the forced low entropy they gave me for something as vital as a bank account.

I asked them why, and basically they said their system would break with anything over 15chars.

[-] unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov 2 points 3 months ago

How many wrong guesses were you allowed before the system would lock your account?

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Back then? Who knows

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

The equivalent of a 20-30 character random password with numbers and characters is a 7-11 word passphrase. Seeing how passphrase generators default to 4-5 words (equivalent to 11-14 characters) what you did isn't so bad

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Who do you think makes the decisions for a bank?

The person writing the Android app?

Or the person who just wants customers to be able to access the app and use the services?

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Banks have laws and regulations that they must abide by to secure the access to and information of customer accounts. A security team will surely have to sign off on whatever the app developer or customer experience manager wants to implement.

Banks have laws and regulations that they must abide by

Wait, did i step into an alternate universe? Did i escape the shadow realm? I'm free! I escaped the worst timeline!

How do y'all spell berenstain?

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