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[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 81 points 8 months ago

Black Market organ harvesting.

What happens when we treat prisoners as a commodity.

[-] meleecrits@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago

Going by what's in the article, which, admittedly, isn't a lot, I think this is more a case of negligence. Anyone who dies in a prison is automatically autopsied. In order for a heart to be a viable transplant organ, the donor must be in a brain-dead state while still receiving life sustaining care. Even a few hours deceased is enough to make a heart non-viable (though apparently this is becoming less true!).

The much more likely answer, is either the autopsy surgeon or an autopsy tech threw the heart out in standard biohazard waste. Still disgusting, uncaring behavior, but until more evidence comes out, I'd say this isn't malicious.

All that said, the Alabama Correctional Prison System is terribly corrupt, so it wouldn't take a lot to change my mind.

[-] zabadoh@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago

The prisoner, Dotson, was “found dead” so who knows how many hours the body was lying there.

That pretty much precludes any use of the heart for transplant.

His relatives said they received the body in a decomposed state, but that could have been poor storage by the coroner before or after the autopsy, or the body might have been well hidden inside the prison so it was a long time before someone found it.

The article isn’t very clear on the condition of the body at each stage of handling.

What’s in the article is probably all the information that the reporter could get out of the prison authority, the state Department of Forensic Sciences, and the University.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

What is this??? Logic on social media??? No, let’s assume the craziest worst case scenario first!!!

[-] some_guy 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe they thought he was a vampire and had to stab it with a pencil and then forgot to put it back. There, happy?

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

I can see it being negligence if an autopsy was performed.

I didn't know hearts don't stay viable long so I think your answer is more likely than mine.

But an organ harvesting operation of prisoners wouldn't surprise me.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It sounds like the family is claiming it was going to be used for medical research, not transplantation.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

That's still organ harvesting and trafficking.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 8 months ago

i mean, at least declare it; "guilty; you shall be used for parts by the highest bidder!"

its not like we care about rehabilitating any of these people

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

Could be. I don't believe the "found dead" part either.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 71 points 8 months ago

the director of the Alabama Department of Forensice Sciences, Angelo Della Manna, said he hadn’t reviewed Dotson’s particular case file and couldn’t answer any questions about Dotson specifically.

Which automatically makes me incredibly suspicious of the Alabama Department of Forensic Services. You're in a court of law, testifying about what your department did, and you can't even be bothered to look at the file? Yeah, sure.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago

I mean, that's a hilarious defense.

"Hey boss they need you in court tomorrow about this specific Dotson case."

" Don't say another word about it, I don't know shit and I'll tell em myself."

[-] athos77@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

You'll see it with politicians all the time:

Reporter: Do you have any comment on [some scandal within your party]?

Politician: No, I haven't had time to [read the charge sheet | watch the video | whatever else].

Like the politician doesn't have a staff member whose entire job is tracking that stuff and giving the politician summaries of whatever's going on.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Desecration of human remains is a crime. Defund Alabama prisons.

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Their politicians already did.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

as an ex prisoners let just say they starve you and that haert was ate

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

There's a lot to unpack in your comment. First of all, you were multiple prisoners??

[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

As an Alabamian I came here to shit on Alabama. But you guys have already said everything I could say, and said it better. Probably because of my shitty Alabama education. Anyway, it makes me happy that someone is seeing what kind of nonsense goes on here.

[-] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

#"Hide yo kids. Hide yo wife. They be harvesting organs in the prisons."

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Vampires? Organ thieves? So many other questions here.

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Indiana Jones and the Prison of Doom

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago
[-] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Chaaaaarrrrlieeeee, we're going to Candy Mountain!

Probably eaten by a dog.

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Hmm. Do hearts normally go missing or is this something people sell?

Knowing is just impossabro

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

He was killed for not repaying drug debts. His body was stiffening when they checked him on his own bed. Seems pretty obvious the inmates stole his heart. Probably swept him off his feet, too.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

Taking what the prison says at face value is naive at best.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

oh klaus mikaelson

[-] Potatisen@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

America, fuck yeah!

[-] some_guy 1 points 8 months ago

Prisons in the south are notoriously shady.

[-] Fallofturkey@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Obviously it was the cult of the tree

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I bet it's been used in some sort of carcosa, king in yellow, occult shit.

[-] crsu@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Somebody literally stole his heart, kind of romantic in a way.

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

But the very next day, they threw it away

[-] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This year, to save someone's tears,

They'll give it to someone special

[-] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Probably ended up in someone's ramen.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 8 months ago

I laughed.

Of all the possibilities, I hadn't considered him simply losing an honorable contest between warriors.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I was referencing a Futurama quote but same deal. ;)

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