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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 153 points 6 months ago

Fuck the economy. Make my goddamn grocery bill go down. Make the fucking rent go down. I'm so sick of the rich dictating every aspect of my life while I barely get by all so they can tell me "everything's great!"

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 months ago

The economy is booming because of all the money corporations are charging you for your food and rent.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

My job is laying off people every 6-12 months despite having immense reserves of wealth. Remind me how great the economy is?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Man, it's so great right now. Mark Zuckerberg increased his wealth by $29 billion just yesterday! People with fat stock portfolios are coming in here to tell us we're wrong about the economy! It's awesome!

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 months ago

Fuck the economy. Make my goddamn grocery bill go down. Make the fucking rent go down.

These things are actually the things that make up the economy.

The problematic thing with inflation is that when people get a pay raise they think it's not because the economy improved, it's because they worked hard for that pay raise. Sure no one's disputing that you worked hard, but if you worked hard and the economy didn't improve you wouldn't have gotten that pay raise.

And yeah food prices are high. Something about a land war in the part of Europe that produces a lot of the global grain supply may have something to do with that. That situation would be resolved sooner if the GOP stopped blocking the funding to go towards ending that situation sooner.

Real estate... yeah that's because the rich suck. Gotta tax those bastards so they don't keep dumping their excess wealth into real estate which drives up prices. But again, the GOP isn't going to approve of that.

Biden has done insanely well on the economy despite the efforts of the GOP to sabotage him.

So be angry, but know who to be angry at. The guys blocking things have a majority in congress and has the filibuster in the Senate. Maybe that should change?

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[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

Fyi, the US president cannot set prices for these things.

That said, he's trying, using what power he does have.

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/grocery-stores-should-cut-prices-costs-ease-biden-white-house-says-2024-02-02/

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[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 101 points 6 months ago

Voters don't care about the economy as long as their cost of living situation is worse.

[-] mrbaby@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

I suspect it's booming because the cost of living situation is worse

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Biden has called out the greed of businesses, but we've seen no action from the government to rein them in.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

How is Biden supposed to have done anything to rein in corporate greed when he's stuck with a Republican controlled house that refuses to even entertain the faintest notion of the slightest hint of the merest idea of reining it in?

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Come on, it's not like Republicans are against their own bipartisan immigration deal because it would be good for Biden. I'm sure they'll work with him on the economy...

Oh.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The president needn't do a damn thing. The People need to protest outside of Citizens United office. Its what we need to do. Tear the structure from the Earth and the occupants along with it. Cast them to Tatarus where they belong.

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 91 points 6 months ago

“Economy” is such a bullshit term here. What they really mean is stock market. The real economy is shit. Pay is shit. Healthcare is shit. Real estate is a fat hog that needs to get slaughtered already. When will the people be treated as Too Big To Fail?

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

Ehh, I think the economy is doing okay. Inflation is being controlled/managed. In some cases it's correcting itself.

Don't lose sight of the forest for the trees. The media in this country has been really pessimistic about the economy and blaming the admin--to the point it seemed intentionally misrepresented.

This economy could have gone the other way pretty easily especially with the billions thrown into circulation during the pandemic.

If we want to credit Presidents when the economy is bad, you need to credit them when it's good too.

If anything this admin should get credit for being stable and a source of order in all of the chaos--not the cause of it.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 31 points 6 months ago

Ehh, I think the economy is doing okay. Inflation is being controlled/managed. In some cases it's correcting itself.

I have to agree. Some people are still certainly struggling, of course. Homelessness is still a problem in places. Many people still live paycheck to paycheck. But the economy isn't going to fully right itself in four years, especially with a hostile House that controls the purse strings.

Additionally, nothing has been done about greedflation (yet?). If Congress or Biden can figure out a way to force companies to stop tacitly colluding to squeeze more money from people, I would suspect more people would start to feel more optimistic about their finances (and the economy in general).

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[-] Skates@feddit.nl 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Some people are already too big to fail. It's just not you or me.

Look at Trump. He's too big to fail. He's not in jail, despite numerous counts of accusations, from rigging elections to treason to sexual assault.

When you're rich enough or connected enough, you're too big to fail.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.

-- J. Paul Getty

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[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

*jobs exist that don't pay a living wage, sending workers ever deeper into poverty and despair*

media and politicians: "LoOk At AlL tHe JoBs! BoOmInG eCoNoMy!"

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago

You get two jobs, and you get two jobs, everyone gets two jobs!

[-] tryplot@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago

🎵you load 16 tons, waddaya get? another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me cuz I can't gooooooo, I owe my soul to the company store. 🎵

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

The economy is only booming for the rich, anyone trying to tell us otherwise doesn't care about our well-being. If it were doing well they wouldn't have to keep telling us, we could see it in our everyday lives.

[-] zaphod@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Gas prices are down. General cost of living is stabilized. Unemployment is extremely low and the percentage of eligible workers on the sidelines is dropping. Wages are up for the lowest income levels and continue to climb despite slowing inflation. Black households, in particular, have seen a significant narrowing of the income gap, more so than they've seen in many many years. The percentage of women in the workforce is up and salaries are climbing for them as well. In fact, the post-COVID recovery has been wildly successful when you compare it to post-2008 with respect to the improvements for the poorest among us, which is precisely the opposite of what you're claiming.

Yours is purely an appeal to anecdote. The data is clear. Unfortunately, as study after study has shown, data can't compete with vibes, and we just spent the last two years with the MSM (not to mention social media...) telling everyone a recession was around the corner.

[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Housing costs are sky-high. Rent is ridiculous. Good luck ever trying to own a house. And yeah, cost of living went way way up and now it's "stabilized" there.

And to say wages are up is just laughable. I mean, yeah people are now being paid $15 an hour instead of $10, but what does that matter when food and housing costs increased more than that?

The data is skewed by the people that benefited from raising the price of everything during COVID-19 and then never brought the prices down.

The rich are richer and they are the measuring stick for the economy because they own all the news sources. It is dramatically worse for the poor now than it was 5 years ago.

Don't let bullshit propaganda fool you.

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I feel like this CONSTANTLY happens and people just eat it. Prices skyrocket. Then they stop rising or maybe even dip a little but still remain way higher than they originally were and... Problem solved! It's stabilized! In fact prices are DROPPING! huzzah!

Makes me wonder if people are really this easily fooled or are they all just being ignored? Lol

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[-] KredeSeraf@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I'll tell that to the out of control housing, rising food costs and the worsening healthcare coverage and quality. Man! So glad these few things you mentioned are superficially better. There's no problems now!

/s because you know someone is gonna take it literally.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If his is purely anctedote, then yours is decontextualized.

Gas prices are down.

Sure. Since a high in June of 2022. The last time gas prices were at this level was June 2021. And the time before that was October 2014. Which is to say, for about 6 years, gas prices were lower than today. And just looking at the graph, they were significantly below today's level. Just to note, they have yet to return to the levels before the precipitous rise stating in December 2020.

There maybe, as you noted, vibes, but they ain't wrong.

Unemployment should be looked at with, of course participation rate which has held even for the last year, and how long people have been unemployed which has been growing slightly for those unemployed for 27 weeks or more. This also doesn't address underemployment which disporporstely effects the young and poor. Underemployment colors one's outlook for stability in the present and future.

Thankfully, Biden and others in the administration have managed this far better than 2008 for the average citizen. Not having a recession is a good thing. I've lived through several. But that doesn't mean there isn't looming concerns. Inflation is still higher than the target and instigating further disinflation is uncharted territory.

Data, in of itself, is not enough. It needs to be contextualized to develop political and social narratives. Addressing people with condescension and dismissing their anxieties as mere vibes fails politically.

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[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 41 points 6 months ago

Biden’s administration has done pretty well considering all the grenades the GOP had thrown into the road.

Imagine how well people could be doing if the GOP actually cared about anyone other than themselves, rich people, or the Russians.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

This has always been the case.

Republicunts ruin as much as they can and stand in the wreckage saying 'See we were write? Govrmnt Bad!'

And democrats have to come in and fix as much as possible before the entire nation forgets again and elects another right wing shitstain come in to ruin things again.

Rinse and repeat for the last near 5 decades.

I'm so fucking tired of this. So fucking tired.

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[-] systemguy_64@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

TIL grudgingly is a word. I've only ever heard begrudgingly before.

Apparently grudgingly is done with lack of interest

Begrudgingly is done with envy

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 months ago

Hey let me know if you guys find any extra money floating around. This economy is so good I can barely afford gas and groceries.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

This has got to be an Onion headline. I mean, of course it is, but they would never in a million years admit it.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Brace for a lot of the magats claiming that faux is "too woke"/"too liberal" and claim they'll have to watch ONAN even harder.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It was extra hilarious when they were complaining about the environmental impact of Taylor Swift's plane. Like you admit the climate needs help, Fox?

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[-] flathead@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ask not for whom the economy booms -

For only the bell tolls for thee.

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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago

I don't know why this guy's getting downvoted. Rent prices are at record high. APRs are through the roof. Groceries are getting more expensive every year. I'm even paying $20 more every month for car insurance. Sure Trump was worse but let's not act like everything is all sunshine and rainbows just because it's an election year.

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[-] HWK_290@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Me?

Gas prices are below $3 here, only spent $91 on weekly groceries yesterday, and my high interest savings accounts are sitting around 4.75%

My property taxes went up 20% but that's a local thing...

And I'll toss this in here even though you'll cry that it's not a valid metric, but my retirement accounts are at a record high

Like, what more do you want??

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

House prices to contract down to a realistic level. Rent controls such that the price of rent is not higher than the price of a mortgage (which gives you ownership of a valuable asset, a tenancy does not).

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[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago

They probably want theirs and everyone else’s cost of living to not be a crisis.

It’s great that yours has slightly improved, it hasn’t for the majority however and continues to get worse.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

But it's now getting worse at a slightly slower rate. Yay, progress!

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Probably because Fox only makes good revenues when their buffoons aren't in charge to undermine their narratives with utter incompetence and pure greed.

Fox needs its viewers to want to start winning, not to be winning. That's why Tucker publicly put a stop to the Biden "crime family" claims right before the 2020 election, and resumed right after it.

Their viewership does best when their claims are not falsifiable.

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