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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They don't think the president has immunity.
They think one specific former president has immunity.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they dont think Trump has immunity, they just want SCOTUS to deliberate on that question to delay Trumps case.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You could have stooped at "they don't think."

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you taking about republican politicians or the voters?

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think your statement is a little too general. I suspect many would be interested in a dictator president Trump. Even if it is irrational.

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Schrodinger's Immunity. It's unknown whether or not it exists until it's observed to be useful to the right people.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Hey Jack, say hello to my little friend."

- Dark Brandon

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 79 points 1 year ago

It is like arguing with a toddler - they KNOW, they are just trying to see if they can get away with it.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This argument is extremely disingenuous. The Republicans claim that a president has immunity unless investigated and impeached by Congress. And this is exactly what they are fruitlessly flailing around, trying to do. So this is not the gotcha the meme claims it is.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“A president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him [or] her to properly function. Any mistake, even if well intended, would be met by almost certain indictment by the opposing party at term end.

“Even events that ‘cross the line’ must fall under total immunity, or it will be years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/18/trump-claims-total-complete-immunity-president-truth-social

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Please always add the person who is quoted. These are Trump's words, while we are discussing what many Republicans are publicly claiming. Of course Trump wants to go way further.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

4 years ago your distinction may be justified, but today trump does speak for the republican party. A significant part of them does support him and agrees with his views.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

He is the person they all chose to represent themselves, so, yes, that is what the large majority of Repubs agree with.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no way in hell those are Trump's words. He couldn't write something that coherent, straightforward and understandable if his life depended on it. At least not anymore, as perhaps he was once more coherent.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Probably Steven Miller. Most of the coherent awful shit seems to come from that Nazi fucks brain nowadays. Pretty sure he's one of McConnell's horcruxes.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But with immunity, the president could simply assassinate anyone in congress who would vote to impeach

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

That's fine, they know a Dem wouldn't do that. When a Repub eventually does execute members of Congress, they assume they'll be spared.

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump was impeached. Twice

He had two impeachment trials, and two acquittals, he was impeached twice and essentially found not guilty. Had he been found guilty in an impeachment trial that presumably would be the penalty to face compared to criminal charges. I am not arguing that it is a correct position, only that its the stated position.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It scares me for our future that you have so many downvotes for speaking openly and truthfully, while so many incorrect and nonsense takes are nothing but dozens of upvotes (ie Trump is barred from running because its his third term). That this platform seems to skew substantially more educated than most and seems to react this negatively to truth and positively to misinformation actually has me hoping I’m interacting with bots as the alternatives are scarier.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

No no, not that President just their picks.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, most still don't believe he's president, so it's logical in their illogical worldview.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is funny because how is Trump running for a third term?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I think we have established that his Math is a special kind of math.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They act so stupidly one could think they're seriously mentally impaired. Like a 5 year old literally on steroids.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

That's what it looks like from your perspective because you value honesty and integrity. They don't. They value white supremacism and hierarchy. Honestly and integrity are cast aside the nanosecond they conflict with hierarchy.

Consider all of their actions from a perspective assuming white supremacist hierarchies were more important than integrity. It all magically becomes consistent.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Funny you'd mention that...

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Republicans can investigate all they want. The President still has immunity, and if Trump's lawyers are correct, have them killed by Seal Team Six when they accuse the President.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

The Democrats are playing “slappers only” vs. fully armed Republicans

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately career politicians like Biden respect and honor the traditions and norms. Even if Trump suddenly managed to give the sitting president 100% power to do anything that is physically possible, I don't think he'd order a nuclear strike on Mar-A-Lago.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well yeah, nuclear fallout would be a consideration. Probably better to just use one of those hellfire missiles that have knives on it.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, it's Florida, would anyone notice? /s

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a totally unnecessary, totally awesome thing that really exists because (eagle noise)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It kinda makes sense if you just want to take out one guy. A regular missile is going to blow up the room and maybe collapse the building, killing a whole bunch of people. A missile that has it's explosives removed won't do that, but it could miss the target. But if you put some knives on it, it'll expand the area of death just enough that there's a high probability of killing the target (even with a near miss), but with no explosives it won't take out the building.

Just a bizarre aspect of war. If you want to reduce civilian casualties you gotta put fucking knives on your missiles.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

If it weren't for contradictions they'd have no dic at all

[–] Teon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GOP: "Illegal Immigrants are taking all our jobs."
also
GOP: "Illegal Immigrants are bleeding our welfare system dry."

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Classic tactic of fascists: Their enemies (read: scapegoats) are simultaneously weak and strong.