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When I want to use free software to make memes: (feddit.de)

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[-] directive0@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago

GIMP is great but it definitely needs its own Blender 3.0 moment where they just completely overhaul the UI.

I've used it as my primary raster app so I'm way used to it now, but I totally understand the people who just never even bother to learn it because they are so turned off by the absolutely bonkers design decisions.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The damn thing was written by a couple of College Students who had no experience with graphic arts and man does it show. The UI has been the number #1 complaint since the 1.0 release back in 1998; how it's never been updated / overhauled is simply beyond me.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 points 5 months ago

It looks good to me...

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Why? Looks basically the same as photoshop, which everybody seems to love.

[-] exhaust_fan@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Among other things:

monochrome color scheme prevents easy recognition of tools
dozens and dozens of arcane options listed alongside super basic options
weird sizing of buttons
no help search, and no search that can associate synonyms where users don't know what term to search for
no inbuilt suggestions when user behaves strangely (eg. user is spamming the escape key, searching "deselect", maybe suggest the deselect all hotkey?)

[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

You can change the icon theme in the settings to a color one. That's what I always do. The scaling can be changed as well.

May I ask what are some of the arcane options supposed to be?

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[-] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It is? How so?

Sorry for asking, I've used gimp forever, but I learned on photoshop. Its been a while since I switched, but I don't remember having any real issues learning gimp

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

The thing is, it's virtually useless for any real colour work, as it's rotten from the core.

So it needs:

Completely overhauled UI
New name
Complete rewrite of the core from bottom up.

I hate to say it, but it's probably more efficient to start fresh.

[-] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

But it did get a UI overhaul a few years back. Seems good enough

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[-] Xideta@ani.social 47 points 5 months ago

Whilst Gimp is technically powerful, you can really tell it's made by programmers. I cannot stand the UI and shortcut defaults, but maybe I'm damaged from having used Photoshop a couple times.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

[-] Hedlosa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 months ago

I have nevee used photo shop so idk if this will help as I have no point of reference, but you're a legend for sharing the link anyway!

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Thank you)

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Krita exists and it's way more robust than the abomination that is GIMP

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

They serve different functions

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 46 points 5 months ago

Man... I probably would be able to crack String theory before I'd be able to learn Gimp

[-] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I love Linux and have been using it religiously since 1998. But, hell for me would be to be seated in front of a PC for eternity, being forced to learn gimp and emacs.

Edit: I’ll know for sure that I’m in hell in a quadrillion years when I finally learn them (assuming i have the same adhd/dyslexia addled mind lol), and they then force me to use emacs to create new, more convoluted versions, of gimp and emacs.

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

There's a filter for that. Just make sure you click your equations right on the line or you'll solve your notebook instead.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sometime in the 90s:

"What are we gonna call it?"

"GNU Image Manipulation Program/GIMP. Huehuehuehue. trollface

"Yeah sure, whatever, it's not like millions are going to end up using this thing."

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 24 points 5 months ago

"Yeah sure, whatever, it’s not like millions are going to end up using this thing.”

Literally. GIMP started as homework back in 1995 for two College Programmers who didn't want to write a compiler in scheme/lisp.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 10 points 5 months ago

More like "huehuehue, millions are going to use this thing!"

[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 7 points 5 months ago

Green is my pepper. 🫑🫑🫑

[-] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 26 points 5 months ago

I prefer Krita

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 12 points 5 months ago

Great for drawing, but I would not edit images with it.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks for this suggestion!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Isn't Krita vector based?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 19 points 5 months ago

Krita can do both, just like Gimp. Inkscape is vector only.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Krita is primarily a pixel based painting software. It's more aligned with Photoshop.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

make_meme_with_imagemagick.sh --text "How CLI memers look at GUI memers" --template twilight-snobs | upload_meme_to_lemmy.sh

[-] Oiconomia@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago

You can make the command line meming tool even more obscure: echo "How CLI memers look at GUI memers" | convert -background transparent -fill black -font Liberation-Sans -pointsize 24 label:@- twilight-snobs.png -gravity center -composite jpeg:- | curl -F "file=@-;filename=meme.jpg" "$(sed -n 's/^UPLOAD_URL=//p' config.env)"

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

What trickery is this?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Imagemagick is basically command-line GIMP. It's very handy for doing server-side image processing, like scaling down profile pics or adding watermarks.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

Lots of people who wanted to have photoshop for free salty about the menu layout being different in GIMP.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

The gimp's sleeping ...

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[-] mihnt@lemy.lol 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The ONE program I miss from Windows is paint․net.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

Have you tried Pinta?

[-] mihnt@lemy.lol 4 points 5 months ago

I have not but I installed the flatpak. I'll give it a go next time I need to make fun of someone. :p

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[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago

With recent Affinity acquisition by Canva, I wish more and more people try GIMP. But GIMP developer should match their UI layout to industry standard.

People from Photoshop, Affinity Photo, CSP, and other tools are confused with non vertical tool box.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago

But GIMP developer should match their UI layout to industry standard.

People have been asking for that since at least 1998 so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Is this a joke? If someone can't correlate a square box full of tools with a rectangular box full of tools then I'm surprised they managed to turn their computer on.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

I recommend Lazpaint if you want something that's significantly faster and lighter, though not as feature rich and nothing like Photoshop, interface wise.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

Every goddamn time I try to use GIMP I end up making a series of stupid minor errors because it uses non-standard keybosrd shortcuts (why is the default DESELECT hotkey not CTRL+D like in every other program with selection tools) or some other esoteric decision of hiding something in 3 menus or calling a tool by a different name to everyone else, then end up re-pirating Photoshop, not needing either for a while, deleting Photoshop cuz "well I'll learn GIMP eventually", repeat

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[-] kubica@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

Always found a bit weird the way gimp saves images. "Export" makes sense somehow but still feels weird, like if it didn't want to hear about the thing you've created anymore ever.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

It sounds like my use of ODF for text editing and then I export it to PDF for when I send it to others. One being the mold or sorts I make changes to and one being the end product.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gimp 3 is around the corner

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's only been 20 years since Gimp 2 was released, why are we being so hasty?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

https://librearts.org/2023/11/gimp-3-0-roadmap/

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[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I haven't used Photoshop; learned basic photo editing in GIMP (as a poor student, I appreciated a powerful, free editor). So, no complaints about the UI from me. If anything, I'd probably bitch about the Photoshop UI if I ever used it.

One thing that concerns me a little, however, is the third-party integration with Nik Collection. The second version, which I'm still using, was provided for free by Google. They later sold the software, and the new company commercialized it. I found it difficult to track down the v2 installer, so I'm now keeping it on multiple backups, in multiple locations, as one of my most treasured software possessions.