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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 47 points 3 months ago

The cruelty is the point. The cruelty is always the point.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

As shitty and tragic as this is I have to smile at the thought that at some point these fucks will 'patrol' the wrong women and get righteously stomped.

[-] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago

The solution is so simple to me. Please explain why we can't just have gender neutral bathrooms with actually private stalls/changing rooms and just a shared handwashing area?

[-] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 months ago

Because none of this is actually about bathroom privacy. It's about an excuse to hate and fear the other.

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Bathroom bills don't even seem like they increase bathroom privacy. The only passable justification (which still relies on demonstrably false assumptions and in fact completely backfires in practice) is to "protect women" from "predators".

In reality, trans people are less likely to be predators than cis, and bathroom bills primarily serve to increase the number of cis people being accosted in bathrooms because they don't look "normal" enough. So it's still completely unjustifiably stupid. But it's the only justification that even makes any sense at the outset even when you believe the fear mongering lies.

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[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

Because that costs more to install per toilet.

Money is why you cannot have privacy, safety, or a better experience.

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

Some places are doing exactly that. Went to a restaurant last month that had 6 full doors, behind which were small rooms the size of a stall, and a toilet. When you came out of the little toilet room, there was a place to wash\dry your hands in what was essentially an extra wide hallway leading back to the seating area.

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago

So I guess now we need our own vigilantes to keep those other vigilantes in check. Should have purged the remnants of the Confederacy back in 1865, no amnesty for traitors.

[-] some_guy 34 points 3 months ago
[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

It's Republicans, not Florida. Just take a look around the country.

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[-] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago

This isn't about Florida. This is about the Republicans becoming the Nazis, and needing minorities to demonize.

This garbage is happening in other red states too; Florida is just ahead of the curve.

[-] some_guy 5 points 3 months ago

Fuck Florida. Fuck Tennessee. Fuck every red state harming people. Fuck the GOP. Fuck Israel. Fuck 'em. I'm not blind to this being a rightwing problem.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Easy solution... no more gendered bathrooms.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Republican Vagilante pee pee patrol

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago

This makes me so sad.

Thank goodness I’ll be out of this horrorshow state soon.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Something like 80 years ago there were no gender specific bathrooms. It was just, The Bathroom

[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

In Canada, there were gendered entrances to stores 80 years ago.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

I just made a comment how the protest solution is simple. Sledgehammer the urinals and then all bathrooms are genderless...

Do that more than once and I almost guarantee the establishment says "fuck it, we're not replacing those again"

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh good, any cis-woman who happens to look more on the masculine side will be in trouble now too.

Edit: Added cis. Apologies for not doing that.

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

This is something I'm kind of scared of. I'm a cis woman, but I have facial hair for medical reasons. I keep it because it's what nature gave me and I kinda like how it looks, and people generally don't seem to care. I do fear, though, that I might be harassed for it someday.

I thought of this with the whole Planet Fitness fiasco. Many, many women shave their faces, but the "can always tell" crowd is so sure that they know men from women.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

One of my wife's cis co-workers has a mustache. She definitely would look like "a man in a dress" to these bigoted fucks. She probably already gets harassed all the time, which is awful because she's really nice and loves working with the public (she's a librarian).

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, I’m a trans woman and my girlfriend is cis but she has way more body hair than me because of our ethnicities. She’s probably safe because she has the body type of a Paleolithic fertility idol, but these people aren’t rational and that’s scary.

Like I’m also scared for myself, but I’ve been living with that fear for myself for my entire adult life, so I’m used to it.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oh they have been. And because masculine cis women outnumber trans women guess who’s going to be persecuted more by raw quantity

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Excuse me sir, we are required to check for penises and vaginas at the door. Thanks for understandi...dang dog! Is that thing 12 inches?

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Pretty impressive to have a 12-inch vagina! Congratulations!!

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

Fuck it. New protest...

Take a sledge hammer to every urinal... all bathrooms are gender neutral now.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Any wonder LGBT folks are one of the largest gun buying demographics in the past few years? Ain't that something?

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Some of us aren't privileged to be towards the bottom of the hit list.

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Armed queers bash back.

SocialistRA.org

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I fuck hate guns but I am starting to understand it now. I am not a member of the LGBT but if I were I might consider going around armed.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

One thing to keep in mind is armed allies keep the persecuted safe and ensure that the vigilantes stop before the moral panic moves to something they are

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just put enough stalls there aswell as urinals and make it gender neutral. Most men don't care about women in their bathrooms anyway. It's - as demonstrated by this article - women that care. Wether it be gender neutral bathrooms or trans athletes it's almost exclusively biological women that are the only ones with something to lose.

Where I go swimming there's almost always female staff doing cleaning in the men's locker and shower rooms and nobody gives a damn. Good luck putting a male cleaner in the female shower space though.

[-] natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 3 months ago

Uh, trans women face out-sized violence and rape from men as well. So it is a safety concern for them as much as it is for cis women.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Oh look the followers of Christ are at it again

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