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The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.

Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.

In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.

“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”

And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 176 points 7 months ago

If the FEC had any fucking teeth they'd jail and disqualify him for that statement alone.

[-] Monument 37 points 7 months ago

They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.

So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 151 points 7 months ago

January 6th was a failed coup attempt.

How is saying you'll retry your failed coup attempt if you don't get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Because he "tells it like it is" or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they're doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what's actually happening. Half of them probably don't even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago

No I'm fine with uneducated masses eating it up.

I'm not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Agreed. But conservatives have learned over the past 10-20 years that they can more or less just do whatever they want without consequence because 1/3 of the people will fight to the death for whatever they do or say, 1/3 is completely unaware and uninterested in politics and current events, and the final 1/3 is people like us who want consequences but we're too busy to do anything ourselves because survival is hard enough these days. There are a hundred things worthy of outrage and organized demonstration too, so which cause do we dedicate our summer to trying to fix? The right has an easier time because they just say "things used to be better" and then have one event where people complain about change. Pretty much everybody can identify with being pissed off that something used to be better until they changed it, and for some reason that's strong enough to get some pretty average people to sit at the table with Nazis. There's much more nuance and thoughtfulness on the left, so it's much harder to get unity.

Because conservatives can grow and maintain a reliable base to keep them in power, they feel no need to even pretend to be decent most of the time. They can just fervently choose their own selfish goals over what the Constitution or other rules and laws demand. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that we're rapidly approaching the era of post-democracy America. Some would say we've been there for decades already, but I think we're in for some dictatorial, executions-in-the-streets type of shit if Biden loses. So conservatives in power who like trump or even suspect that he may win or get into power otherwise have to weigh doing the right thing which could hurt their party and draw targets on their backs vs low/no consequence siding with trump.

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Because "not trying to overthrow the government due to losing an election" isn't listed in the Constitution as a requirement to be elected. One would think that's a pretty major oversight.

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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 86 points 7 months ago

I have strong doubts. The people most likely to "Jan 6" did. A number of them, particularly the mid-level leaders, that actually organized things, are in prison. They have not turned out in numbers since they started getting arrested.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 7 months ago

They got light sentences. And let's face it, the people that are going to organize yet another insurrection are going to be duped by the same logic that Trump will pardon them or that their acts are justified.

Trump is threatening our democracy. Again.

He's saying that if he doesn't win, there's going to be another insurrection.

The sad reality is that over the last four years, fascist states have put laws into place that make it legal to overturn elections for little to no reason. No oversight.

He won't need an insurrection because he has willing accomplices.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Remember, the Beer Hall Putch failed. So we have nothing to worry about?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Per the new rules in my state, all my history books have had the pages from 1924 to 1957 torn out. So I'm assuming this part of history was just woke and soy and therefore unimportant.

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[-] yuri@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago

Fucken Bolsonaro did the same shit and it’s looking like he’s actually gonna get prosecuted. Real shame the US government isn’t up to the high standards set by Brazil, but maybe we’ll get there someday!

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

How many more Babbits will trump create when he can't tell the capital police to stand down? Or even, how many of his idiot followers are even going to show up when they got fucked and abandoned last time?

You're a pathetic weakling Donnie, go sit the fuck down and pout to a judge.

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

Oh, fuck off, the only reason it got that far on Jan 6 is that he was already in charge and refused to call in troops to immediately shut it down. I doubt Biden sits on his hands for several hours while rioters attack the Capitol.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

If Biden wins the election I can almost guarantee that there will be guards posted ahead of time.

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[-] nycki@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

I know what the headline actually means but i'm choosing to believe that donny just found out about calendars.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

So he is threatening to go full Mussolini then?

[-] JesusSon@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Hopefully, he gets the full Mussolini treatment. They will have to find an Exxon station since Esso changed its name in the 70s.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Well what’s important is that Mussolini eventually became a good fascist. I just wish he’d done it faster

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 7 months ago

I saw your comment and my thought process went: "What?! Good fascist? The only good fascist is...is...oh. Ohhhhhh!"

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 7 months ago

These morons should be greeted by the National Guard

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only reason it happened the first time is because he was able to allow it to happen... but he ain't the one in the oval office now.

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[-] toiletobserver@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago

May the capital police show far less restraint if next time happens.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 29 points 7 months ago

Oh? I thought Jan 6th was AntiFA?

By all means fuck around & find out. The Capitol police will have their submachine guns this time.

Not to mention the fact your supporters won't even show up to your trials after you abandoned them & stabbed them in the back last time, you wretched piece of shit.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 28 points 7 months ago

He OBVIOUSLY learned his lesson Last Time!

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Someone go kick Susan Collins in the butt

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 28 points 7 months ago

Hints another Jan 6 could happen

Calls for violence if he loses election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago
[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

This fuckstick needs to be thrown into a hole for the rest of his life.

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[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

My god the media really love him don’t they ?

They can’t quit.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

This is why we all should arm ourselves heavily. And be ready to fight back.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago

When I worked for the country I found I'm a pretty decent shot with what you'd've called an m16a3 . I had a couple of really great shooty-powpow days.

You know what I'd do if jan6 got crazy again?

Continue to stay away. I have no business being there. I'm not some gung-ho halfwit, passable shot or no.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Question is what exactly does he mean? That MAGA republicans from around USA will visit the capitol city and go to see congress, all completely peacefully. we just have to hope the LGTB people don't make a mess of it.

Because isn't that what he claimed happened?

Trump is such a malignant idiot, and so is everybody who supports him.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Question is what exactly does he mean?

Terrorism.

But the little bitches in the government are too afraid to call a spade a spade.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago

Yikes, forgive me if this is a naive question but how are these kinds of veiled threats against American democracy okay with Homeland Security?

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Our positions of authority are infested with conservatives.

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago

Yeah. I really doubt congress is going to fuck around next time. They'll be deploying the national guard and shooting on sight. Even other GOP members were pissed about the insurrection and were targeted by insurrectionists.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

The difference is, if rioters try to break into the Capitol building THIS time, they're not going to get bottled water and a pat on the ass. The Capitol police are going to be loaded for bear.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago

so his supporters are gonna take another shit in the capital building, go to jail by the hundreds, one will get shot and a Democrat still gets elected.

k.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 7 months ago

The SCOTUS says that if we don't let Trump do that there is a chance that Trump may do that !

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Not really, because he's not in power this time.

He can't hold a protest in DC without approval and given how 1/6 turned out, nobody will give him approval if he loses.

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[-] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Please try it.

Your guy isn't in the white house this time.

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