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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 115 points 5 months ago

He touches on my major issue with all these companies, data mining without compensating the people that created that data. I have to pay for the operating system, get served ads, AND you get to make extra money off my information too? This kind of shenanigans would be tolerable with a free OS, or maybe one that compensated you like brave browser. The blatant fleecing of the consumer here is sickening. I’m glad data mining your screenshots is the last straw for people.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 39 points 5 months ago

I've been screaming about this since I found out Re:CAPTCHA was using us to train AI. We should definitely be compensated.

[-] Terry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 months ago

Let me be the Devil's advocate here.

You/we (as users) are being compensated by being permitted onto whatever service is being gatekept by Recaptcha. We profit further by having that service not be completely tainted by bots. Sure, recaptcha ain't even close to perfect and can be easily bypassed, but any barrier of entry is better than none at all.

Google profits by getting free training for their models.

And the service provider profits by saving on bandwidth, moderation etc., which in turn benefits the users too in the form of a less degraded service.

There are many things to dislike about Google and what they are doing to the web. Recaptcha should not even be in your top 100.

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Too bad he didn't touch the real issue with Linux for most people: lack of their industry favorite proprietary software.

[-] adamnejm@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

If Linux suddenly started gaining traction on a bigger scale, Microsoft would make a user-facing proprietary distro and those bastards would still flock to it.

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I'm not ok with data mining under literally any circumstances. There are some things which just shouldn't be done.

[-] xyguy@startrek.website 65 points 5 months ago

God i wish. And most everyone here could install a new operating system in about 20 minutes. But nobody else is going to because the learning curve for a regular user to install an os is basically perpendicular. Even if they had a linux installer already on a flash drive.

Oh just boot into the bios and find the option to boot for a flash drive and then boom installed.

Which requires a user to know, What a bios is

What booting means

What boot options mean

What the model of their flash drive is

What button on their keyboard they need to press to get to the bios

What secure boot is

Where they need to go to turn off secure boot

How and where to back up their important files

What a disk partition is

How to reverse the changes made to the bios so that it doesn't boot to usb by default.

And that's assuming they know why they want a different OS, why they care and that they know about Linux in the first place.

Most people dont and never will. All you can do is install Linux for the ones you like the most and say a prayer to your favorite deity for the rest.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 24 points 5 months ago

It's worth noting that the same applies when installing Windows.

Most people never do that either because it's already ~~bloated with malware~~ installed on the PC they buy.

Same with macOS, you buy the hardware with preinstalled software.

[-] xyguy@startrek.website 8 points 5 months ago

Absolutely. If Linux was pre installed that's what people would use. Its the switching to Linux from something else that proves so complicated.

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[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago

That is why Microsoft spent a total of gazillion dollars to have its OS pre-installed on all PCs. We need more PCs with Linux pre-installed. This should be an antitrust issue but I am not knowledgeable enough to say how.

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Agreed. All those things in your list are the hardest part of modern linux, if someone gets past the UEFI, BIOS secureboot hurdle the modern GUI experiemce is superior to Windows

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most ppl can't be bothered to install an ad blocker. Microsoft knows ppl will just take whatever they offer.

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Who needs to know their flash drive model?

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[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

Yes.

Really the hardest part of desktop linux for a regular, so called "internet user", in the installation.

They don't have no clue how to install an operating system, even windows.

I once installed CentOS workstation for my father on his ThinkPad. Firefox and Libreoffice is all he needs. Automatic updates in the background make sure all the latest security patches are applied. There have been few time when, after the update, the laptop hangs at boot. I've since told him to choose the second-to-last boot option from the "start-up menu" until the fix for the bug has been deployed (usually in within a 24h).

So really using Linux isn't the hard part. Back in 2004 (ish) I went the painful route of installing my first Linux - Gentoo. But boy I learned a lot from it. Yes, I had a helping friend to get me over the hardest parts.

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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 43 points 5 months ago

I spent too much time with corpo brain rot to give linux a chance on desktop and realize it's how I'd always imagined proper computing would be. It changed my outlook on the world when I finally did and it's liberating (much libre. Very wow). Glad to see more and more people catching on to the possibility of a better future.

[-] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 months ago

it really is crazy how different it feels to use a linux pc after being conditioned to think that windows is just how using a computer is. the way i relate it to my friends is that using windows feels like i'm constantly compromising with the computer, but using linux i own my computer and it works for me - not the other way around.

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[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 41 points 5 months ago

I've been 100% on Linux since July of last year. I thought I was currently having my first major Linux fucked up situation that I just could not figure out this weekend.

It has been very depressing, after trying to convince friends and family to give Linux a chance and keep an open mind for months, I was beginning to feel like a fraud and a liar.

But, after hours of software troubleshooting turning up nothing I've discovered I'm in the early stages of a dying ssd... My first major problem, and it's hardware related. It sucks but it is also a relief in a weird way.

And I'm finding out about it way earlier than I likely would have in windows thanks to btrfs. But it's also funny because if I had been having similar issues in windows I probably would have ran hardware diag much sooner, but because I'm still a bit of a Linux newbie I assumed I broke my OS and wasted hours troubleshooting software.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

If you're running btrfs, you can send live snapshots to another btrfs volume on another drive, or use Timeshift which will do it for you amd keep track of expiring old copies. Clonezilla is OK for when you are able to take the system down entirely.

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

It’s always a good idea to take regular images if you have the capacity for it. Clonezilla is what I like to use since it’s free and has good support

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago

It is satisfying to see stuff like this. Thank you for sharing.

[-] urska@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was about to post this video, lmao. But this man still thinks Linux is difficult and not easy to use. When in fact its become way easier than running Windows ~~Linux~~. Linux has surpassed Windows and Mac on the Desktop usability in the last 2 years. And it just keeps getting better.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 29 points 5 months ago

But this man still thinks Linux is difficult and not easy to use

He explicitly said that it was incredibly easy to get set up on old hardware and that everything he did just worked.

All of his reasons why Linux is hard to use he specifically framed in the context of "historically speaking Linux was bad but now Linux is good"

Were you even paying attention?

That said, if you've ever tried to pair a controller with Linux that isn't a PS5 or Xbox controller it will be rough. Had to use the CLI to change Bluetooth configs and install non standard drivers to support it on Mint

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[-] mia@lemmy.cybergirly.com 19 points 5 months ago

Linux is easier than Linux ?

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've come to realize the Linux basics are actually a lot easier to learn compared to Windows and MacOS, the hard part is un-learning the old ways and habits of doing things. Like if one day everyone on earth forgot how to use operating systems, I'd bet Linux would probably be the one that catches on. It's only because we're so used to the idiosyncrasies of stuff like Windows that it feels more natural.

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[-] Everyday3671@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

The best advertiser for Linux is Microsoft.

[-] fiend_unpleasant@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

there are 400 bajilion how tos on how to install Linux. If you aren't going to do it then you arent going to do it, enjoy your corporate mandated spyware. I think it was Ben Frankin who said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little new user ease of use, deserve neither Liberty nor ease of use” or something like that

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

I've tried to install Arch on my spare Dell laptop a week or two ago, and failed spectacularly twice in quick succession. I was using the arch wiki, assisted by GPT4 on things that were not clear to me. Just kept running into issue after issue after issue until five hours later I gave up.

I'll try again when I have the time.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 23 points 5 months ago

Arch should never be anyone's first distro.

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[-] 01011@monero.town 8 points 5 months ago

Most people start off with something a bit easier - Fedora, Mint, Ubuntu. There's no reason to jump straight into Arch.

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[-] noorbeast@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

Mention is made of Resolve, which does work great as a professional grade video editor, and in the next breath codec issues are raised, which are not a Linux issue but proprietary licensing issue.

For a simple workaround in Mint go to: /home/UserName/.local/share/nemo/scripts

Create 2 files to convert videos from the right click menu and make them executable in the Permissions:

#!/bin/bash

for file; do ffmpeg -i "$file" -c:v dnxhd -profile:v dnxhr_hq -pix_fmt yuv422p -c:a pcm_s16le -f mov "${file%.*}".mov

done

And:

#!/bin/bash

for file; do ffmpeg -i "$file" "${file}".mp4

done

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago

I've always been familiar with Linux and tech but always used windows cause gaming. Last week I stripped all my drives and set up dual boot to daily drive Linux with a windows fallback for whatever I might need windows for.

Fedora was up and running in no time.

Win 11, I had to jump through the hoops to avoid logging in, it doesn't label your drives like Linux does so you have to guess or cross reference somehow, twice as many reboots, pages of data settings.

So glad to finally be going Linux ❤️

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[-] eveninghere@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If Linux ever becomes used by my friends that movement will be driven by big techs or governments. Our voices aren't a big factor and we should admit that so that we spend time better.

[-] urska@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

Talk about yourself brother. Im moving that % on pure will alone

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[-] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

While I agree with this video. As someone who did migrate from Windows to Linux, I feel the biggest issue which wasn't address here was the planning for migrating to Linux.

Migrating to Linux means loosing access to Windows native applications like Adobe and ~~kernel level anti cheat~~ online games. What I found helped the most was transitioning to cross platform application and learning their ins and outs in Windows, or discovering ways to validate which applications work well in Proton and Wine.

With games ProtonDB is your best bet to see if there are issues. Or finding ways to solve issues.

With Professional software... you're not going to be as lucky, so transitioning to an alternative which works for you might be the best solution.

The best way to check if Linux will work for you is to run Linux in a VM or on an external SSD on your actual hardware. The best way to check if something works for you is to try it yourself.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 18 points 5 months ago

You can still play online games. Not all of them, but more than not.

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[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago

I'm hoping this will make software publishers target Linux... just not with snaps. Please no.

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