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Turns out if you define a third of your pale population as "Latinx" instead of white, very few white people remain.

Even the 2020 census had the sense (heh) to finally drop the "Hispanic race" and have it as a separate label, but the "researchers" felt like going out of their way to redefine it as a "race" again. Not sure why race is even treated as a scientific thing to begin with in their census, but such is the Amerikkkan way I guess.

Edit: don't even want to think about the causes of this "age gap"

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

And people call this rag "leftist" lmao. This racist alarmism would be right at home on Storm Front.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The implication that this is something anyone should care about or even take notice of seems astoundingly racist

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[-] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 11 months ago

America has been doing this dance for the past 200 years. Too many Germans, Irish, Italians, etc will make white America not white anymore was the old tune and I'm done waiting for Americans to realize that race is a social construct.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

whiteness isn't real. it's a hegemonic construct that will always absorb enough new bodies to maintain it's dominant positions. many latinos/hispanics are already becoming white as part of this social construction.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Racist "we are the good ones" MAGA Latino/Hispanic people are kind of common in my area and it fucking sucks. debord-tired

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 11 months ago

Racial categories have always been jank in the US for Latin people. Forms have a separate question on whether or not you're Hispanic. But because of that, "Latin" is never included as an option for race so we have to fill in something stupid.

Look at questions 8 and 9 here. I'm the tan kind of Mexican American, so I have to answer question 8 with Yes, Chicano and question 9 with...??? Other? I'm a Hispanic Other. Makes sense.

[-] citsuah@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So Spanish is not white but Italian is. And also Lebanese?? How the designers of these questions think they can get any meaningful data whatsoever from these questions is mind boggling.

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 11 months ago

White Spaniards fill out Yes and write "Spaniard" for question 8 then pick White and write "Spanish" for question 9. It's funny that they have write out the same thing twice.

Beats me why Lebanese and Egyptian people are considered white though

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[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago

In my work I've had to fill out that kind of forms a couple of times for Latinos and some have this options "Cuban, Hispanic, Mexican, Puerto Rican". It makes total sense.

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[-] Comprehensive49@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 11 months ago

In America, the terms Latino, Latinx, and Hispanic refer to basically anyone from any country in the Americas that is below the United States, geographically and 'culturally'. It's essentially a label Americans use to say, " oh you're from one of THOSE shithole countries".

The great great grandson of a Spanish conquistador who massacred thousands of indigenous people to claim his own plantation is considered the exact same as the granddaughter of an indigenous person on the receiving end. Both are called Hispanics, making the word an utterly meaningless label.

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I have a particular beef with those labels because, although I usually like my Latin American cousins, my "Hispanic" country speaks Portuguese and not Spanish. In the census there wasn't even an option for Latin American people who speak languages other than Spanish (Portuguese and French but also Guarani or Quechua or the various creoles).

It's extra insult to injury that they appropriate the gendered "Latino" instead of just using their own "Latin," but then feel the need to slap an X on it. I've never even seen non-Yankees using latinx instead of the age old latino/a/e/@ out there.

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[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

Yeah no, the "whitemaking" of Hispanic/Latine Americans is already underway.

[-] buh@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

they're gonna expand the definition again like they did in the 60s for irish, italians, etc.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

"One drop rule" except for whites instead.

[-] relay@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 11 months ago

Fascists are dumb but not that dumb. They know the "white" population is declining which is why they are redefining their racial goals. Anything to not talk about capital.

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[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 11 months ago

I'm doing my part.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This was always going to happen because Anglo countries define whiteness by one-drop blood quantum rules. The population of white people will always shrink if you define white in such strict terms and everything else in such loose terms.

Having just a single non-white grandparent is often enough to disqualify a person from whiteness.

It also doesn't help that the boundaries of whiteness have shifted compared to 30 years ago. Muslims usually aren't considered white for instance no matter where they're from. I distinctly remember my Syrian neighbors were considered white when I was a kid, then 9/11 happened and suddenly they weren't.

[-] bandarawan@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I remember that I once had to give my "race" on a visa application. They had the term Caucasian (that was 2018 Singapore), which I found to mean anyone looking European/Mediterranean. So northern Africa also counted.

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

Fun fact: middle eastern & north African people were legally enshrined as white in the US due to a 1909 ruling with the following logic:

  • Jesus was white.
  • Jesus was born/lived in the middle east.
  • Ergo: middle easterners are white.
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[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 11 months ago

Interesting I guess. It's a no-brainer that this would happen when whiteness is defined by its purity. Some say the definition will be expanded like it was for Italians and Jews, but that requires racists to stop discriminating based off visual appearance so I kind of doubt it. Anyway, rip bozo lmfao

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 11 months ago

They already do when it comes to gusanos, so maybe Latinos with mostly colonizer blood will be considered “white” soon. Theres already a separate category for white Latinos so maybe they’ll merge it with “white.”

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[-] Badass_panda@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 14 points 11 months ago

It's funny, Jews are white right up until the racists need to figure out who is behind the decline in white share of the population, then it turns out we're shady minority puppet masters

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[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

They've been saying this kind of nonsense about every generation, every year for decades. I'll believe it when I see it.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

When I was a kid my parents would tell me that there would be no blonde people left when I was an adult.

Yeah, do not underestimate the racism of white boomers

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

When I was

A young boy

My father

Took me into the city

Then hit the door locks turned to me and said some of the gnarliest shit I've ever heard in my life

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[-] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

since people often get confused by statements like this, remember that majority means >50%. there will still be a plurality of white people in the US for the forseeable future

49% is still a lot of whiteys

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[-] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like the idea of lots of different races of people because variety is nice. I sort of wish I was the tanner version of white because being out in the sun all day has turned me into an ugly wannabe-femboy tomato

[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

be the femboy you want to see in the world

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[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The white replacement is real!!! 😂

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