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submitted 5 months ago by lemmee_in@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

Windows 11 is getting out of hand with its push for advertisments, frankly - remember the recent full-screen pop-up to persuade users to install Edge or other Microsoft services? Then another advertisment was placed in the Start menu, and now Microsoft has finally worn my temper thin - with a new Game Pass ad coming to the Settings app.

This will likely arrive in the July update for Windows 11, or at least it’s almost certain to do so. It was present in the latest preview update Microsoft just released for the OS (and quickly paused due to a bug, but that’s another story). It’s also worth noting that the ad has been present in earlier test versions of Windows 11.

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[-] Grippler@feddit.dk 235 points 5 months ago

I wholeheartedly believe that all forma of unsolicited or public advertising should be completely banned. Nothing good comes from it, it is only a nuisance to everyone.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 79 points 5 months ago

But have you thought about a legal person's right to fuck your eyes and brains?!

Also, what about their freedom of speech... Shit lord

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 months ago

Ads are probably closer to brainwashing than they are to legitimate free speech. Things that are legal can also be problems.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 19 points 5 months ago

Because they are not "ads"

They use the same propaganda tactics that governments in 20th century perfected

Gets people going

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago

Imagine If I worked for Kellogs and I hired a guy to follow you and yell about how good corn flakes are every time you look at your phone, every time your TV shows go on a break, and every time you pass a billboard in your car, or a marquee on a building. Even if we assume that person does nothing else illegal somehow, that could easily still be harassment, which is definitely not free speech.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Tell that to the courts that's who decided this degeneracy is acceptable.

Don't get me started on them spying

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

They should, but that's never going to happen unless political lobbying is made very illegal (like life ruining and business bankrupting illegal, not slap on the wrist, cost of business illegal)

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

We should be able to charge them for ad time. You want to paint an advertisement on my car you have to pay me. Why should it be any different when you want to put ads on my work computer screen when I'm working with clients?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

I get what you're saying but that still gives them unsolicited permission to post ads in the first place.

I want an operating system, not an ad system that also happens to be an operating system

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago

And it's not like w11 is free, the price of a PC with Windows installed comes with its' license's costs. It's not told to the consumer so they won't even know they are using a product they paid for, for them it's what a clean basic PC looks like. And that's what prevents many to care about it the same way they can be frustrated by a paid streaming plan with ads. To take is as a given, and shifting the Overtone's window of fucked up services even further.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

if i cant grafitti the walls why can corporations?

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[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

Especially in a paid service, like why do I pay for these services if you're still going to advertise, track, or datamine? I know the answer is greed, why profit off of one option when you can profit off of all of them, but I, the consumer, am fed up with the customer abuse.

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[-] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 106 points 5 months ago

They haven't gone overboard with THIS one, because they already went way the fuck overboard years ago and never got back on board

Man I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and make my next machine a linux one

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 months ago

Imma make the jump once they force me to 11. I've been saying this for years but they finally got something cooking i truly can't abide. That screenshot of what you're up to every ten seconds is fucking terrifying to me and that's not even considering govt snooping. I ain't about to leave a record of my porn consumption for my wife to see lol! Linux is finally juuuust about idiot proof and game friendly enough for me. Can't wait to be one of those smug guys that says 'just use linux lol'

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Microsoft has made the choice very easy for me. I still have an i7-7700k that works just fine. But that's "too old", so when Windows 10 hits end of life, I'll be switching over to Linux.

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[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago

I recommend Linux Mint. It's very beginner friendly and you don't need to use the console too much if that kind of thing bothers you. The GUI even looks very similar to a Windows 10 environment.

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I second Linux Mint

I installed it on my Grandma's PCs not too long ago and even she enjoys it. She's almost 80.

We are having issues with her printer but it's one that has known issues with Linux in general (it's a fancy Epson laser printer, scanner, fax machine combo with bad Windows support) but I'm hoping to rectify that soon.

I would say the GUI reminds me more of Windows 7 than 10 which I really dig

Edit: spleling

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[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I switched to Linux mint. No ragrets. It takes a bit of fiddling and a teensie bit of a learning curve. But it's way easier than Microsofts endless deluge of shit.

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[-] HogsTooth@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago

People are abusing Google's ad distro platform to get malware onto people's machines. I see Microsoft signed up for the same firestorm of possibilities.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

I hope someone sues Microsoft.

[-] big_slap@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago

I updated my work laptop, and they put their shitty copilot button on the bottom right and TURNED OFF MY SHOW DESKTOP BUTTON.

nothing more to add, just wanted to vent with people who may understand my rage with windows lol

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago

Microsoft, stop. My computer can only be so switched to Linux.

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 32 points 5 months ago

I have run out of things to install Lunix on without getting fired.

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[-] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Been 100% linux for like 6-9 months now, these stories make me thankful for finally making the switch.

I've tried to make the switch 3-4 times in the past and was stopped by 2 main things:

  • Drivers / Laptops were tough to get set up
  • Gaming

The experience was so much better this time and I really have no regrets. I don't imagine I'll ever run Windows again outside of a VM

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[-] PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Microsoft went too far in 2001 when they included a new online activation feature in Windows XP which spearheaded the future of drm and enshitification. They've been one-upping themselves ever since. All the most recent stuff is just more icing on the shit cake.

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[-] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The thing that irks me the most is that those things work. They'll see a little complain from the most vocal ones, and that's it. The revenue will increase, their shareholders will be pleased, the OS will be worse, and we'll have no viable alternative.

Unless governments start to regulate the hell out of tech companies, it's only downhill from there.

Edit: about Linux, it's not viable if you're outside IT or rely on commercial software. That's a debate for another post.

[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago

Why wont we have viable alternative ? We already have

[-] saddlebag@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Agree with everything expect for the viable alternative. Linux is viable for many people

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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago

It is bullshit, and people will complain while continuing to use Windows so why should Microsoft care?

[-] Meeper@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago

The thing is that they still hold an iron grip on most creative users as all their software doesn't yet work on Linux. So we are left with little to no choice between enduring windows and Linux fanatics screaming "Just find an alternative software and relearn everything you've spent years learning and perfecting in your preferred one"

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[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

What's next Microsoft? Replace the windows os loading windows page with a 30s ad? Or have defender uninstall apps if a competitor pays enough? Maybe capture a screenshot of my screen every 3 seconds for AI analysis?

[-] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago

Maybe capture a screenshot of my screen every 3 seconds for AI analysis?

about that...

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 27 points 5 months ago

Our office uses windows, and egde feels like malware to me

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 months ago

Microsoft has gone too far:

Just now, with this?

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[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 23 points 5 months ago

I switched to Linux Mint Debian edition when the Reddit thing happened. I'm glad I did before Windows got this bad.

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

Microsoft is so confident in its desktop marketshare that they allow themselves to push the overton window on what users will tolerate.

The only competitor they can lose users to is Apple. And even then not everyone can afford an Apple computer, especially in the rest of the world

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Forget Apple. Without buying any new hardware, i managed to replace Windows with Ubuntu just a month ago. My most hated moment on windows was the time i saw the onedrive ad in file explorer... That felt way too intrusive.

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[-] GreenStar@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Tbh me switching to Debian (using the KDE desktop experience) is feeling better and better, my PC runs over 3x faster, I have way more control over my own device, and everything works better than ever!

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Hopefully they'll end up with an incredible amount of user telemetry telling them that they've created the least adopted version of Windows in the history of the company.

That's what Windows 11 deserves, they need a punch in the face from users.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

I've never actually seen an ad in Windows... Like, literally ever. The worst I've seen is Windows trying to trick me into making edge my default browser.

If I believed all the articles on Lemmy, every part of the OS now has embedded ads, and the OS itself is recording everything I ever do against my will and without my knowledge.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 5 months ago

I see ads pretty much everyday in Windows. They're not as attention grabbing as traditional ads and I think this is part of why some people don't see them.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 16 points 5 months ago

Win11 becomes a less and less appealing switch day by day... When I can no longer hold into Win10, I think I'll just have to jump ship to Linux.

Win10 is already quite privacy poor, but Win11 is straight up intolerable.

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[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Microsoft already knows that people keep windows around either because they want multiplayer games or are scared of linux.

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[-] laxe@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Solution is easy - just don’t use windows

[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Should I point out the irony of this complaint being posted on a site with ads every other sentence and doesn't even show what the windows ads looks like?

It's a valid complaint and all I just laughed as I scrolled past all the blank "ad here" blocks to read the article.

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