Yeah but, like, liberals are so right wing, comrade

I mean aoc would be a pretty well known and liked pick imo.

Whats that fallacy?

When you are committed to a losing strategy because you feel like you need to recover what you've already lost?

To everything you just said: No.

Biden is splitting the Democratic party currently. Not some other time; right now. If you want to unite the Democrats, we need another candidate. Bro is polling in the mid-low 30's. Dentistry polls higher.

You're underestimating just how much contempt there is for Biden. He's losing to a Trump even more now after the debate, absolutely hemorraging support. He simply cannot win. He's alienated the anti-genocide part of the party, calculating that he could afford to give them the finger if he tried to suck up to independents and non-existent disillusioned maga chuds. And now independents are abandoning him.

There's no evidence that the party would be split on a different candidate, the only argument I've heard for Biden up to this point is "Vote blue no matter who. He's not Trump.", which can be applied to literally anyone. Even Harris has a better chance against Trump at this point, the numbers show that.

The anti-genocide people do not want Trump, but Biden literally made it impossible for them to vote for him, they will vote for basically anyone else if given the chance. Harris even has the benefit of having distanced herself from Biden's insane support of Israel, and she's a woman and not a catholic so she's going to be stronger with women on abortion, she's also the reason Biden has any of the black vote.

Biden is a sinking ship, the life raft is not great but it will work better than just staying onboard and going down with him.

My opinion is Biden should at least open up the convention and allow others to campaign and get there name out there so we can get some polls showing whether he is the best candidate. As it stands right now the margin that could determine a win dont know enough about alternatives so the polls aren't showing if they will actually be better.

Something's gotta change though Biden is losing and trending down and even if the polls are wrong and he's even, we can't win by squeaking by less then a percent. There's the electoral college and he had to win by 4.5% nationwide last time to get a narrow victory with Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania, states where he's behind 2-5% right now. Both candidates are pretty known quantities at this point and barring trump going to jail I don't see bidens fortunes shifting . So he's either gotta step down and let someone else take a shot or take enough Adderall to kill an AP class and go on a national speaking and press tour. If they send him back into his basement and he doesn't talk the Democrats will sleep walk to a trump victory.

I was thinking about it, and I feel like the only demographic that wants Biden to stay in are Israeli trolls.

They're the only group that benefits by either Biden or Trump win, I think that's why there's such a weirdly forceful push to shut down discussion of Biden leaving, it would mean a chance that a non-Zionist might win. But if it's Biden v Trump Israel gets a faithful genocide supporter either way.

What an absolute sesspool that place was

Its just really important to identify it and call it out when you see it. Even with the way they downvote brigade, its important to put them on display.