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Jon Stewart: Excuses for Biden’s ‘shocking display of cognitive difficulty’ are ‘bulls‑‑‑’ (thehill.com)

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 99 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He also played a clip from Biden’s interview with ABC News, when the president was asked how he would feel if Trump won the election.

"I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all and I did the good as job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about,” Biden said in the interview last week.

Stewart raised his voice and pushed back on that comment.

"That’s not what this is about! There are no participation trophies in endgame democracy. Oh yeah, I remember FDR saying, ‘Well, if the Nazis take over Europe, at least both teams had fun,’” he added.

Full clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9LZXheHddI

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

Yup! That quote from Biden is absolutely fucking unacceptable. If you are unable to guarantee a success then get the fuck out of the way and lets find someone (not Harris) that can.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

What if it is Harris?

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

We may not like it, but Harris has a better chance of winning against Trump.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I, for one, like it. I think she would do a better job than Lemmy thinks she will. I would love to see her debate Trump.

[-] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Think you're right, she'd do well against him. I just don't like her. Some of her news bits had me thinking: Trump for Democrats

Her whole career has been Fighting Against the People. If she'd fight billionaires and corporations like she took down stoners, I might think differently about her.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

There’s no point in anyone debating someone who just blatantly lies continuously.

It was stupid of Biden to do it and it would be stupid of anyone, even Michelle Obama to bother letting him spout his bullshit like he did.

The only possible exception is someone like Gavin Newsom or AOC. Someone who could bring the zingers for his bullshit.

[-] n0m4n@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I listened to Newsom on Fox. I would pay high dollars to watch that debate. Or Katie Porter.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

If she wins - good for her - if she loses, let it end her political career forever because she contributed to ending democracy.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Its not. People hate her

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[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Correction, Biden legit said “goodest job”, and if my soul was still functional I would have fell out of my chair when I heard it.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I definitely hear "goodest" and had no idea what "godd as" was, but was just leaving quotes as is.

On Colbert's monologue he said that Biden's campaign insisted on the Times changing it to "good as" for some reason

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

This is what I’ve been fuckin’ saying since the interview!! Jesus, it’s nice to finally hear a public figure precisely articulate a serious concern I have.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It reminds me of political posturing on other issues, like everyone says they believe the climate scientists but they sure as fuck ain't acting like it.

Here too it really seems like those sounding the alarm aren't alarmists at all. Trump is a fascist. But everyone's still pretending like it's completely fine to lose to him.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Hmm, Jon Stewart has a lot of influence, like it or not. If he can get behind a movement to get Joe Biden to....

Stewart also noted he was not calling on Biden to step out of the race, but asked if Democrats could “open up” a larger conversation about their candidate.

Well, shit. We're stuck with Joe, aren't we?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

He's saying the bare minimum is an honest discussion and evaluation of Biden.

We're not even getting that, were getting "buckle up buckaroos"

And being gaslight about valid doubts about an 81 year who just set the record for oldest US president ever is fit to go back to back...

[-] itsAsin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

but it's only 4 months away! this is who the people chose!

[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

No they didn't. There were no primaries and no Democrat dared challenge Biden lest they face the party's wrath.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 40 points 1 month ago

I didn't think there was ever a realistic chance of replacing him, honestly. We are indeed stuck with Joe.

But I appreciate that Stewart acknowledges these concerns rather than trying to gaslight us about it.

[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think anyone seriously is claiming Biden is without issue. Only that now is too late to call for replacing him.

They are basically the "blue no matter who" people. I'll probably be one this election too, considering the alternative.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not 'blue no matter who' I'm 'third parties mathematically cannot win the electoral college so I will vote strategically for whoever has an actual possibility of beating Trump, then down the ballot I am more free to vote with my conscience.

[-] n0m4n@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Are there any Republicans left who are not in the Trump cult?

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Dick Cheney just called him out the other day. Dick frickin Cheney.

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

We were stuck with him a year ago. Unless you can turn back time and install ranked choice voting before primaries.

Thinking otherwise is delulu.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

So both candidates have hijacked their own parties, as they can literally destroy them if they are forced out.

[-] person420@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 month ago

In what way did Biden hijack the party? At best it's a Weekend at Bernie's type situation.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A Weekend at Sanders' isn't going to fix Biden's optics problems. Does anyone know if he needs glasses?

/j I'm making jokes so that I'm not attempting assassinations at this point.

Edit: ummm.... Well this is awkward...

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[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

You guys are not voting only for the president. It's everything that comes with that. Like the supreme Court and all other justices.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We won't have the Presidency or likely the House or Senate if we stick with Biden.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'm voting for Biden if he's the one in the general, but I fear you may be right. Far too many normies have no idea what is at stake.

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[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Stewart's episode is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was "no primary" is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that's how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie's primary chances?

You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don't care how good the DNC's legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

There was effectively no primary, quit dissembling. What happened to the 18 month primary circuses of 2015?

[-] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"My city election for mayor didn't have enough choices on the ballot so it effectively wasn't an election and we should re-do the election". Democracy is run by those who show up. Sometimes, not many people show up. Sometimes you don't like the people who show up. Some people aside from Biden ran in the DNC primary, they lost. Anybody could have ran. If you don't liked the limited field of candidates, in a democracy, your options are: vote for who is available and run. That's it. Anything else (calling for another election because you don't like the result) is not democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

[-] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Sometimes the people are very clear and the establishment still chooses whoever the fuck they want a la 2016 but sure

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Jon nailed it. I don't know why the Biden team is insisting he stays.

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jon Stewart would be a pretty good candidate. I mean, totally horrible as a president in objective terms, but would work as a pretty great counterpoint to Trump.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

I don't know why you think he wouldn't be a good President. A presidents job is largely rhetorical and Stewart is good at that. He also showed his mettle in his support and advocacy for 9/11 first responders.

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago

That berating he gave them was amazing. Also gave me my favorite pic of McConnell

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

This is one of my favorite pic's of all time and it also shows precisely how to navigate things like the house and senate from the outside.

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